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Does anyone have any field experience w/ these 2 bullets on game and/or accuracy between the them. It looks like the Scirocco is built "beefier" but not sure how much, if any, difference there is between them. I appreciate your input.

If this issue has been addressed before, please forgive.

Good post!I want to see responses;I've only killed coyotes and one deer with them,but can say they both shoot great;very accurate bullets IME from 7 RM and 30/06.Thanks.

I also am quite curious about the Scirocco II.
The original didn't shoot too well out of my 270WCF and 300RUM.
I however, would be willing to give the 'dash two' a whirl if somebody has some good results on game to report.

Does finding an enormous void in a Scirocco count as experience?

I intended to use the Sciroccos in a 7x57 I was building and ground one in half for display on the wall and found a void in the rear that measured .287x.104 or that was what I found was left in the remaining half. averege weight was all over the place on the remaining bullets so have gone off them completely now. Use the 160gn Woodleigh and think it is one of the best bullets going. Accurate and effective.

Von Gruff.

Wow!
That is interesting.
I know that on the original Scirocco's I fired out of my 270WCF(but only one box of 100) accuracy was pretty dismal.

However, I have had superb accuracy out of my 340Wby with the 225gr A-Frame.

Weird, as I would have expected the slick, boat tailed bonded bullet to shoot better than the A-Frame.

I use the 180 grain Scirocco IIs in my .300 Wby. I have taken 2 large bull elk with this rifle/bullet combination. Both animals were dead on their feet after the first shot. One faltered long enough for me to get a second shot through the lungs a couple of inches away from the first.

I use 200 grain AccuBonds in my .300 WSM, but have taken only one elk--the largest bodied bull that I have ever killed. It was a one-shot kill (the animal was quartering toward me and the bullet entered between the shoulder and the neck and exited behind the last short rib on the opposite side). I use the 250 grain AccuBonds in my 9.3x62 and 9.3x74R: one bull with each, both one-shot kills. I use 260 grain AccuBonds in my .375 H&H and have taken two bull elk, a 55-inch kudu, a very nice waterbuck, a 38-inch oryx and several small plains antelope. All the African animals were one-shot kills, but one of the bull elk stayed on his feet long enough for a second shot.

Accuracy in my rifles with both bullets is pretty much equal. The 200 ABs in my .300 WSM (a CZ Model 3 that has been professionally re-bedded) is best: 1/2-5/8 inch groups consistently at 100 yds. The Sciroccos in my .300 Wby are also a reliable sub-moa load, doing 1/2-3/4 inch when I do my part. The 9.3s both run from 1-1 1/4 inch. The .375 H&H was also a 1-1 1/4 inch rifle, but I had Hill Country Rifles do their accuracy work and put it into a McMillan Classic stock and it's now a genuine sub-moa shooter with the 260 ABs.

FWIW, accuracy with the first generation Sciroccos and the Scirocco IIs were virtually the same, as was the performance on game..

Mudhen,
Interesting report and thank you.

The .257 100's and the 130 .277 interest me in S2. I've been meaning to order some for awhile now.

Greebrier, here a a couple of threads you may find interesting.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...&topic=0&Search=true#Post2603876

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...&topic=0&Search=true#Post2597884

mudhen: That was a good post; thanks.

I shot both the 130g NAB and the 130g Swift SII into milk jugs at about 15 feet. Both were from a 6.5x284 at about 3100 fps.

The SII went through 6 jugs and was laying on the ground beside the jugs. The NAB went through 5 jugs and was stuck in the side of the 5th jug.

The NAB weighed 78.5g (60.4%), Maximal diameter -0.653 inches.
The SII weighed 122.9g(94.5%), Maximal diameter -0.692 inches.

A couple pictures:







I posted this back in December, so sorry if it is a repeat. Still working up a load for the SII with RL17. (Looks very promising)

100gr SSII's land sub-moa out to 500 in my Roy....couldn't be happier. Hope to report on game soon.

257Wby @ 100yds

I have not tried them yet, but this picture sticks in my mind as I'm really impressed with the frontal diameter for the Scirocco II's. I understand this is a water test, but I think the bullet would look similar if you where to recover one from an animal.


CLB

That's pic is a close cousin to the ones I have recovered.
I use the Scirocco exclusively for whitetail since about 2003 or 2004.
I hunt woods about 50% of the time and it retains about 74% weight close up and personal from a 300 RUM 180gr.
This year I will run them in the 25-06 and no longer have that nagging concern about close shots.

Accuracy has been excellent in the boxes I've bought.

Do the SII seem to get caught under the hide, or do they penetrate all the way through?

IIRC Mule Deer was testing some SII's in his rifles also, I think the 257 100 grainers.

I thought the S2 was gaining promise after three critters killed & bullets recovered. It was the third that really bothered me. It was a yearling Sika doe taken with a 150 S2 from a 7 Rem Mag at roughly 60 yards. THe first surprise was the recovery of the bullet. That really really troubled me. Once recovered, the bullet had fragmented into three pieces, second surprise. THis was from a bonded bullet. THe bullet was dug out of the scapula, thrid surprise. No way even that little bone from the little doe should have stopped that bullet.

I won't be using the remainder of my Scirocco's.

On the flip side of the coin I have seen over a dozen animals whacked with the Accubond in .284 & .308, none of which ran more than 4o yards. Only one was recovered from a 600 lb + Oryx shot with a 30-06 at 140 yards in the shoulder. The handloaded round was averageing 3080 fps. The big critter took off and piled up after a 40 yard dash. THe 165 gr AB weighed in at 148 gr's. The longest bang flop was a 250 yard head shot on an Elk cow from the 30-06.

Accubonds? Certainly.
Scirocco's? Certainly not.

S2's for me all the way.

I have complete confidence in them.

Good post. Looking for more replies.

I got to try the Scirocco II in my 25-06! Looks pretty interesting!