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Regardless of the power you select,always try to get a 50mm. Biting tongue....... WHY??? Because a 50mm objective is just not needed, especially if you're running scopes of 6 power or less. Plus there are advantages to smaller, lighter scopes.
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I'd likely go 3.5-10x40 on a .270win sporter. That's what I had on my last one and it was a very useful combo.
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Regardless of the power you select,always try to get a 50mm. Biting tongue....... WHY??? Are you sure a 50mm would be big enough on a straight 6?
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I do a lot of treestand hunting & shots are usually under 200 yards. If I were choosing a Leupold it would be the 6X42 with a heavy reticle. I own Leupolds & a few other scopes & if its a variable for stand hunting deer its a 50MM. The 6X42 really gathers a lot of light & works to well past legal shooting time when many big bucks are shot. The 6X42 is probable one of the best buys in scopes. I use them on a variety of rifles where low light is important from a ML,to a 35 Whelen for bear/hogs, to a 376 Steyr for large African plains game.
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Because you need at least a 60mm. That's just being silly, just go with this one and be done with it. http://www.tactical-store.com/ts-zs-rs-6-24x72vic.html
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The 2.5-8x36 VX3 would be my 1st pick,,,if I were you.
That'd be my pick too. It's possible to shoot beyond 200 yards w/o 10x. Agreed, and agreed. I shoot my 2.5x8's out to 650 yards all the time. Probably do it later today in fact. No problemo! Leupold 2.5x8's and Kimbers go together like peanut butter and honey...
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What range will you be shooting game at.
Closer than 200 = 2.5-8x no question
Further than 200 = 3.5-10x, if it's 300+ all the time 4.5-14x is a possibility.
To tell you the truth I shoot the 2.5-8x better under 200 than I can the 3.5 or 4.5x.
This is curious; I'm wondering what happens after 300 yards that makes the 3.5-10 unsuitable.Or for that matter what happens after 200 that knocks the 2.5-8 out of the game altogether.Cripes I've killed woodchucks at 400 yards with a 6X... A guy should use what he wants but the formula seems sort of flawed to me..... ...........YEP!!......Overscopin-itus for hunting purposes is an epidemic. But! To each his own!!! Reminds me of my buddies 4.5x14 on a 338 Federal. He never uses higher than 5x for hunting....As he says, "It`s JUST there in case I need it.".....A 4.5x14 on a 338 Federal???? I call him Mr. Hubble!!
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It wasn't too long ago when I saw a picture of a 30-30 Marlin lever with a 4.5x14. I'm sure it balanced well.
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I've seen what I believe to be this scope http://www.barska.com/ac10776.htmlmounted on a Marlin, but it was labeled Rex instead of Barska.
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Well, we know that one wasn't a Wisconsin-based tirty/tirty wearing the 4.5x14 or it would have been in see-through's for CERTAIN.
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I guess maybe with some of the comments on here-I should clarify something.When I said 50mm-that meant ,get away from the 6 power.Good luck finding a 6 power 50mm..some understood that that meant you would have to increase your power level when I said 50mm,,,some totally missed it altogehter. Being x-military (Recon) I go with the old addage....The better you see-the better you shoot.That applies to targets as well as game.
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I think that would be the perfect scope for a 30-30. It has the mil-dots for those 1,000 yard shots.
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Now I'm confused (which isn't necessarily hard to do). From your post "Regardless of the power you select,always try to get a 50mm." No mention of higher power.
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Let me put it this way: you would "have to" go with a high power to upgrade to a 50mm.I was trying to tell him to get away from the 6 power with a 270..unless of course he is limited to 100 or 150 yards..I can drop them dead at 300 or 400 yards with my .270-but thats with some hot handloads of mine.I just prefer to see what I am shooting at b4 I pull the trigger.I dont ground check nothing,or I try not to.I am surprised some weekend warrior has not chimed in with the standard-"why not just use a good set of bino's to see what your hunting" I love it when some dufus comes along with that line....LMAO.
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Let me put it this way: you would "have to" go with a high power to upgrade to a 50mm.I was trying to tell him to get away from the 6 power with a 270..unless of course he is limited to 100 or 150 yards..I can drop them dead at 300 or 400 yards with my .270-but thats with some hot handloads of mine.I just prefer to see what I am shooting at b4 I pull the trigger.I dont ground check nothing,or I try not to.I am surprised some weekend warrior has not chimed in with the standard-"why not just use a good set of bino's to see what your hunting" I love it when some dufus comes along with that line....LMAO. troll
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"why not just use a good set of bino's to see what your hunting" I love it when some dufus comes along with that line....LMAO. So your advocating using your scope in leau of binoculars to check out potential targets? In other places of the world it's legal to shoot after dark, most states it is not at big game. Not saying that a 50mm objective won't gather more light than a smaller objective in the same quality of glass/coatings, but a cheap 50mm glass won't be as bright/clear as a much smaller higher quality peace of glass. Different strokes for different folks, but most people like to keep a nice clean/slim profile to their carry rifles, which a 50mm objective doesn't really do. A beanfield rifle may be a different story all together.
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To make sure you get that full 7mm exit pupil on 14x remember you must have a 98mm objective - 4.5-14x100 is the new paradigm. Between the 6x42 and the 3.5-10x40 I would go with the 6x42. However, if there is a reasonable chance of shooting game at < 25 yds. get the 3.5-10x40 because you can't focus the 6x42 that close at factory parallax settings.
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I was trying to tell him to get away from the 6 power with a 270..unless of course he is limited to 100 or 150 yards You have just exposed something.
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I prefer smaller scopes on my rifles..I like compact rifles with nice lines..I would opt for a Leupold 2x7x33 for a .270 win. and would have no problem with a straight 4X..Neither one has ever let me down.
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I think it depends on the game and the range. Here in the East, don't need a 10X scope for deer sized game or for anything else bigger than an armidillo. Can't say about the West. O'Connor mentioned the fixed-six as a max, actually he preferred something smaller (3x?) and with a post reticle. Different strokes.
I don't need a 3-9X, but they're easier to find and generally cheaper than Something Else. So, I put a knobby varible scope on my rifles because I'm CHEAP! I miss the cleaness of a fixed power scope, however.
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