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Shameless, I do believe that SF stands for "Slim Frame" ok.
Now looking at the GLOCK model book, I do see a Glock 20 and 20C. The 20 C stands for compact! The Slide Length of the regular 20 is 7.59 inches or 193mm. Listed in the book.
The also make a GLOCK 29 with a Slide Length of 6.77 inches or 172mm. in the 10mm caliber. Actually the SF does in fact stand for "short frame". The only model I'm aware of they advertise as "slim" anything is the G36. Also, the "C" models are for "compensated", not compact.
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Good thing the front sight isn't too large...
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Let's face it, the 10mm is everything the .40 S&W isn't. You can load it with heavy bullets and still get reasonable velocity. Double Tap Ammo ( www.doubletapammo.com) has the widest selection of 10mm loads available from mild to wild. If you get really lucky, you can find some Norma ammo. They offered a 200 gr TC FMC at 1200- fps (635 ft. lbs.), and a 170 gr JHP at 1300 fps (636 ft. lbs.); these are their figures. I think they offered other weights but these were some really good rounds, and very expensive. I expect the 200 FMC TC would give excellent penetration on large furry things.
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Let's face it, the 10mm is everything the .40 S&W isn't. You can load it with heavy bullets and still get reasonable velocity. Double Tap Ammo ( www.doubletapammo.com) has the widest selection of 10mm loads available from mild to wild. If you get really lucky, you can find some Norma ammo. They offered a 200 gr TC FMC at 1200- fps (635 ft. lbs.), and a 170 gr JHP at 1300 fps (636 ft. lbs.); these are their figures. I think they offered other weights but these were some really good rounds, and very expensive. I expect the 200 FMC TC would give excellent penetration on large furry things. Batch -- seriously check out Double Tap for the widest variety of 10mm ammo available, from mild to wild.
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Yes, the Double Tap Wide Flat Nose Beartooth hard cast lead bullets would be great penetrators for large furry things.
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Good thing the front sight isn't too large... Okay, that only took three days to sink in. I must be getting old.
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Well years ago I used to pack the Smith & Wesson model 29 in 44 mag for walks in bear country, teathered to my belt. Oh yeah, just for you young sprouts out there, I carried my model 70 Winchester in .338 mag or the .300 Win mag loaded with 250 grain and 220 grain bullets respectively.
I don't walk around much in bear country like days of old but if I did, I would once again take my pistol, only it would be my Smith & Wesson .460 instead. Now how's that grab you by the arse JOG? PS...We are picking up my GLOCK model 20 in the morning!!!
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I'm from Minnesota - we use whisk brooms on black bears. Grizzlies or Browns? I'm thinkin' RPG...
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JOG.....Grizzly and Brown Bear are one in the same specie! This was proven some years ago by a (biologist) man who devoted his entire life and almost died from a grizzly attack in 1978 while studying them in Yellow Stone National Park. I just happened to be there that year. They also had 3 people killed by bears in that park that year.
Those so called Brown Bears just have much more food and don't have to travel but a city block or so to satisfy their hunger, while the mountain grizzly will travel 20 miles in a given day just hunting for his food.
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The biologist died before DNA testing was available.
Grizzly Bear - Ursus arctos horribilis
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I have a Glock 20 in 10mm with an extra 9x25 Dillon barrel (2000fps). The 10mm is a great 15rd back-up hunter. If my Ruger Blackhawk or Taurus DA that are in .41mag held 15rds, I wouldn't have the great Glock. I hate to carry extra ammo for a back-up. But they don't, and it does. Good luck.
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I'd like to see the penetration of 180 grain rnfp hard cast bullets out of the G20 (with standard rifled aftermarket barrel). 1200 fps should push one of those very deep...
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Croldfort......It is nice that my GLOCK 20 holds 16 rounds! When I go elk hunting this season, the Glock 20 is going to be right along side my .338 mag model 70 Winchester.
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OSOK......I am going to run a test or two on the 10mm and 180 grain bullets in about a week. I'll let you know the results I get out of wet newspaper. I will also shoot some plywood or oak boards if I have the time.
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I have a 41mag. Don't need to duplicate cartridges.
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I have a 41mag. Don't need to duplicate cartridges. I have a .44mag. Don't need to duplicate cartridges (by getting a .41, I have a 10mm in front of me right now).
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I like duplicates and even the occasional quadruplicates.
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Glock 20, with a Lone Wolf .40 barrel for plinking. I reload for both. It is sweet. Life is good. Mark
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I like my G20, but I've really been enjoying the 610 I picked up. 40's or 10's. I'm impressed with the accuracy. The SWEET trigger pull and long sight radius make it easy to shoot. I think some 180 XTP's may end up going after a deer this year.
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