It's pretty straight forward in that there's always 2 measurements above and 2 below the prong. Oak, you're saying they took only 1 mass measurement below the prong and it still scored 80? Would really like to see a photo of that one, as it must be absolutey huge and freaky looking.
last year i almost shot a buck with 4 or 5" horns that curled over his eyes. Thankfully i didn't. I found this retarded thing later. So it's my priority to see if the other one grew a foot or so this year.
Nice job there Greenhorn in improving the gene pool!
JG, why is your son sleeping with a fine buck like that in his hands? I just don't get these young sprouts. They just don't get excited about anything but nintendo...LOL. Those are some dandy bucks.
As far as goats go, look for mass compared to the eyeball like Greenhorn said. Mass FAR outweighs a couple of inches in tine length. Tine length is nice to talk about, but give me the "fatty" bucks with mass. They look so much better and don't shrink on the wall quite so bad.
I laugh at all the hunters I run into every year that swear they have seen 20-30 16" inch bucks. Of course, every one of them is a "Booner"! I have measured a pile of "16 inch bucks" that barely squeaked past 12". The hunter always says, "I must have hit the wrong buck. The one I shot at was over 16 inches." Kind of like every bull is a 350 6x6 and every 4x4 buck is 30 inches. No species on the planet is more misjudged and experiences more ground shrinkage than speed goats.
I killed a nice 15" buck a couple of years ago that netted 75". While hunting for him I turned down a couple of nice bucks at first light. A couple of punk kids out on their first hunt knocked the bucks over that I had just passed on. I just had to go check them out....right? One went 16" with a score of 80. The other one was just under 17" with a score of 81! I really kicked myself! It must have been the low light...no wait, the sun was in my eyes. Yeah, that is what fouled me up ;o) Neither of those bucks looked to be over 14.5 inches, nor would I have thought they would have scored over 74. Goats are tough to judge, unless you see a real gagger, then you can't get the gun on them fast enough. Few critters are more fun to hunt! Flinch
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Flinch, you speak the truth my friend! My son is not real excitable, those goats are a blast to hunt, and I can't judge them real well after seeing lots of 'em.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
That's indeed a nice shape. A couple of years ago I was returning from the range near dusk when I spotted one similarly shaped about 15 yards off the road. When I stopped for a look, its horns were precisely framing a full moon. Would have paid big $$$ if someone could have beamed me a camera at that moment.
I just compiled the info to put my 2008 Buck in the P&Y book - not a huge buck but a nice one. These 70" variety are pretty common. When you see an 80"+ buck you'll know it, kind of like seeing at 30" Mulie - you go instantly from "that's a nice buck" to "oh my god, look at that!"
He's missing about an inch from the right prong which doesn't help the score any, but gives him character.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
As for heart shapes, here's my most heart shaped, or most curl on top anyway. Bad angle, will have to see if I can find a front view. I smokepoled him and think he scored 81 gross. 16+ length.
here's a couple other heart shaped bucks I arrowed, but more of a wide heart.. top one is the live buck i posted earlier, 16 3/4 length and grossed 83+. netted into the all time B&C book, and is one of the top P&Y bucks recorded from Montana.
Here's another heart shaped buck, 14" heavy and certainly a P&Y record buck, but I never had it measured..
But no doubt this is my favorite and he also scored over 80" gross, one of the better bucks arrowed in MT ever, and certainly the coolest I've taken.
I've actually always been a sucker for pretty prongs.. and like this one. 16" and prongs.. booner he's the live one above, crappy photo with the buck facing to the left