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Those are strong words, especially about the 280AI, since there seems to be a strong following of them on this board. Same for the 223AI, JOG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Personally, I don't have a use for either one of them.

Amen, Art!

My vote, however, goes to the 7mm Rem. Mag. I hate to generalize, but whenever I run into some puss gutted windbag, they seem to invariably be toting a, and I quote..."Seven Mag with a three by nine". A "tripod" is also a popular accessory. "It'll shoot flat out to five hunnerd yards, and kills like a bolt a lightening!"

Boy, that does feel good!

My apologies to the the serious riflemen who shoot this ballistically fine cartridge.

Jeff

"It'll shoot flat out to five hunnerd yards, and kills like a bolt a lightening!"



Actually, I think I have heard statements to that effect most from people who shoot 300 Weatherbys. I agree that it is a great cartridge but that saying above along with "With this rifle if you hit them in the toe, the shock will do them in!!" causes one to shake their head in amazement sometimes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



As for the 270 Win. I always remember what John Wooters said when he rated the ten most over-rated cartridges along with the ten most under-rated. The 270 was on both lists. He said that it performed as well or greater than many cartridges bigger than it making it an over-achiever, thus under-rated. He also said that no cartridge made could possibly be as good as many people claimed the 270 was, thus it was highly over-rated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

And RSUMs, WSSMs & WSMs.

Marketing fads.


SC.........................

308 never carried for it


but a 25/308 would be cool

30-06

Any I owned would be quickly re-barreled to another cartridge.

Big Stick:
Does the "king of yhe dinks" have the initials J'Oc?

I'm really surprised at the animosity toward cartridges such as .270, 308, 30/06. I don't see them as boring at all. They've been doing it right for a very long time. What's wrong with that? Everyone has the right to like or dislike as they see fit, it just surprises me. I've killed many, many deer with a .270, almost as many with the .308, and 30/06. I'm not saying they are my all time favorites, but they rank right up there and I currently own a .308 and a 30/06. I have since traded the .270. My favorites are the 7mm-08 and 257 Roberts. I like the diversity of calibers hated, very interesting. I'm almost afraid to mention that I also have a .243, and like it very much. I guess there's no accounting for taste, maybe I don't have any.

bchannell,
When your on top 270, 308, and 30-06 people are always trying to knock you down. capt david <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I am afraid I am more opinionated then I realized. Have always known that the 30-30 wasn't right for me and theres no arguing about the deer it kills each and every year. Not liken the 270 doesn't make sence either. I've got a (3) 06s and a Whelen. Like the idea of 280s or a 25-06 seem good, but count me out on the 270. Then I bought a 243 but only because I didn't think I get a Low Wall in a 260. Now I got 2 Low Walls , not that I want to sell one! But I am still not certain I like the idea of a 243. The distaste for the 7.65 goes bach to high school; why couldn't they just make a 30 caliber? But then have fond memories of my brother's 303 Brit. Don't forget the 244 in a 700 Rem V that I "got ride of" and don't confuse this with the 6MM Rem.. Or the Sako 222Mag in a Vixen that I didn't need or the 35 Rem pump that I didn't neeeed because I was married and was never going to hunt again. I may not want to recall some of this. Mags don't really exist in my world, so why think about them. Cann't see 100 yards where I hunt any way. Theres no way I am getting a 38/55 or a 375 Win, better add the 45/70 also. The 284 was always on the edge, of what I am not sure. Just didn't understand the rebated head. One of several things I wish I'd had the forsight to purchase was one of the 20 MM Swedish Leighty (sp??) anti-tank guns that were offered through the 60s in the back of the American Rifleman. That would be something to hang on the wall and argue with the ATF about. Never saw a use for the 6.5 Carcano or the 6.5 from Japan, didn't like the rifles. Had an 06 Enfield with the belly straightened, the ears ground off sitting in a bedded [bleep] stock that cost $13.00 and a used scope. The 17HMR and 204 Ruger seem strange creatures, I mean I've got a 22. This was all alot easier when I had a few less dollars. I didn't need to dislike anything then.

Heard about this thread and had to check it out and throw in my .02.

The .338 Windbag. I absolutly hate and dispise this cartridge. For the same reason a feller above stated he hated the 7mm, the mentality behind it. The kind of, I can just throw her up and it will take them down because it is so big mentality. If one was given to me I would have it rebarrled to something else. I wouldnt even sell it for fear someone would actually shoot the POS.

By the way, Roy Weatherby was a king umongst mear mortals in the rifle business!!!

I refuse to own any cartridge that has STW, SAUM, Ultra Mag, WSM, WSSM in its name - most useless bunch of chamberings ever concocted when there were other cartridges that could do pretty much the same thing - reliably kill any game animal, providing I do my part. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

add the 270 WSM to my list

why buy it when you can have a 7mm WSM instead

What a thread to read - it's depressing. Yet oddly enough I now feel compelled to comment.
I will never own a round designed for a pistol or revolver - useless things!
I'll never own one of those straight walled caliber's designed for black powder guns - there is a reason their dying out.
I'll never own a low-pressure round designed for a weak walled lever action. No wonder they are dying out too.
I will never buy another magnum - or probably use any of the ones I own that kick harder than a 30.06. I just don't need a bullet to shoot 4 inches flatter over 400 yards - compared to a "standard caliber". It's easier to simply hold 4 inches higher.
I won't ever buy a gun with more "oomph" than my old 30-06 Pump. It puts them all in an inch at a hundred - and as I'll probaby never go to Africa - it will kill everything dead without a lot of fuss and bother. And there just isn't any such thing as "deader than dead!" And so far (and it was built in 1956) nothing it's been pointed at has lived to tell about it - and that included many a grizzly.
Brian

338 Ultra mag.

Really it just pisses me off that remington doesnt sell a 338 win mag, if you want a new 338 from remington you have to get the ultra mag. Please, if i wanted that kind of recoil id at least get some benifit out of it and get a 375.

also:

243 whats it really good for? The 25-06 does everything better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

7 rem mag, no thanks ill take the 30-06 everytime.

Any of the new fangled short mags, just based on principle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

By God,you just talked me into a 30-06!


Nawwwwwwwwww....been there/done that...................(grin)

I did the 30-06 thing twice, and after just checking my safe, they no longer reside there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I've a Garand in the stable,but what the hell ELSE could one watch a WWII flick with?

I'm also guilty of wiping my ass with paper and feeling no remorse.

Times change,there's no shame in that.................

Most of them.

As Murphy would have it, I figure that most of you boys is dead serious about your disdain for the cartridges you don't like, I'll take all the .338 WM's, 7mm mags, .308's, whizzums and shamus you guys absolutely wouldn't want to give away lest some poor ole boy shoot the POS for $100 a rifle. Just blind luck has allowed me to kill about everything I've ever pointed at with those overbore, underperforming cartridges. Yes recoil is a dreadful thing, why sometimes it pushes your shoulder and makes a loud bang! I got several $100 bills laying around, I'll be waiting for the PM's of the deals you just cain't stomach cause it's in THAT cartridge <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />1ak