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Hello all
I am looking at picking up a Sako 85 Finnlite in either 270wsm or 300wsm. I have not owned a short mag yet and am looking for some opinions from guys that have. I'm not looking to get into what kind of game are you hunting etc as I own lots of rifles in many calibers. I just want to know about some first hand experience with regards to performance. Does the 270wsm really stretch out compared to a 270 win? Does it come close to the 270 Wby? Or is the 300wsm the higher acheiver leaving the 30-06 way behind and duplicating 300 win mag velocities? Any ideas?? I am a handloader so I am interested in more than just factory data. Thanks for all replies.
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I have a .270 WSM and a .270 Weatherby with equal length barrels, I think the .270 WSM is pretty underwhelming compared to the Weatherby round. I've seem some pretty good numbers put forth by others, but my rifle won't achieve them. The WSM in question does not get advertised velocity with factory ammo either. It's a sample of one either way.
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I personally would prefer to stay with the std. 270 WCF as the advantage is mostly in print..but to each his own and all are good calibers that will do what you require of them.
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I personally would prefer to stay with the std. 270 WCF as the advantage is mostly in print..but to each his own and all are good calibers that will do what you require of them.
The 270 WBY is the most underated caliber that I know of, but there again I doubt that the extra trajectory or velocity helps at the ranges of 400 yards that I limit my shots to..
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IMHO ,the 300WSM is a fast 30-06 with great case life and minimal trimming. I'm sure the same could be said for the 270WSM.
Great choice for the Sako 85 platform.
4 down and it actually feeds fine. About a 1/2lb lighter as well.
Neither will hang with a true magnum but that's not really a bad thing at all.
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IMHO ,the 300WSM is a fast 30-06 with great case life and minimal trimming. I'm sure the same could be said for the 270WSM.
Great choice for the Sako 85 platform.
4 down and it actually feeds fine. About a 1/2lb lighter as well.
Neither will hang with a true magnum but that's not really a bad thing at all. Said it before Sammo, but you are wise beyond your years... Ingwe
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Ingwe, you must be heavily into the B12....(grin)
Seriously though, I really do like my 300 WSM.
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Comparing factory loads to factory loads my 300 WSM is slightly faster than a 300 Win mag. As far as handloads go the 300 Win mag has the edge. I prefer the WSM, but that is mostly do to the short-action rifle that houses it. Also the fact that the case is beltless means longer brass life and fewer problems reloading it.
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No B12 tonight, or BS for that matter.... It just takes most guys about 20 years of hunting till you realize you don't have to have the Ultra Whizbang Magnums... You figured it out early.... And I noticed your scopes don't have awful many bells and whistles either...  I have also never seen a pic of any of your rifles wearing a "Bubba Buddy" ( Elastic buttstock cartridge holder)... So there you have it..kudos to early learned pragmatism... Ingwe
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If I was gonna get a Wizzum it would be a 300, but only cuzz they didn't make a 25.
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If I was gonna get a Wizzum it would be a 300, but only cuzz they didn't make a 25. Yeah, and I think they missed the boat for sure there...our gunsmiths have literally built more 25WSMs than we have ever sold of the 25WSSMs... Ingwe
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To be completetly honest I do have a funky reticle in a bigass Zeiss scope. Never again though.
Brad and Dober got me turned onto the little LR Leupold's and they are a pretty damn slick setup.
And hey I'm almost up to 20 years of hunting here in Montana. Listening to you guys sure doesn't hurt the learning curve either.
No B12? What the hell buddy?
I better go take a rip of the Single Barrel JD for ya.....(grin)
Scotty, a 257 or 264 WSM wouldn't suck at all.
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Sorry for the hijack.
Ingwe,
you have any idea the kind of speeds that are attained with the .25 WSM? Is case neck turning required?
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Why is it that Danny and Sammy feel compelled to call me Scotty.....
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You know what...I don't really know....I think one of them lives right down the street, and/or I can ask the smiths... I'll bet however, that some neck turning is required, and I'm guessing the scrunch down might be a two step operation...unless they start with .270 WSM... I'll see what I can find out about the Short/Fat... Good Questions...I don't pay enough attention to boolits going faster than I can see...  Ingwe
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Why is it that Danny and Sammy feel compelled to call me Scotty..... I don't know...that is a little disturbing... Reciprocity maybe....  Ingwe
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Why is it that Danny and Sammy feel compelled to call me Scotty..... I don't know...that is a little disturbing... Reciprocity maybe.... Ingwe I only do it when I'm drunk.....(grin)
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Oops!...My Bad!  I may have to go back and "fix" that...  Nahhhh.... Ingwe
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