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Hemiallen,

Think were getting into dead equine abuse here.

ie. - Beating a dead horse.

I think that John's right about the dead horse. John Wayne shot a Weatherby .300. "God Bless John Wayne". Surely no one will argue about that.

No argument here.

I think you're right....& don't hold your breath.


ETA:... Has anybody else noticed the conspicuous absence of comments fro JB, Redneck & Mickey???

Sure did � like walking across a pasture in the dark. My boots got stinky, but my feet are clean.


Not guilty.


It's not my style to seek redemption for anything that I'm not guilty of.

I'm guilty of a lot that you don't know anything about. I pray often for redemption � and at none of these very painful times do you even come to mind. So don't hold your breath.

...and John Wayne was a duty dodging puss. Sorry if you don't like the sound of that, but ask any of the real men of the era what they thought of him.

Always had respect for Mr. Howell's writings.

If what he says is accurate, all prominent gunwriters are criminals.

How could only he know?

How could someone who knows that products that they hawk cause injury not say so? Unless they are a spineless criminal?

Your right...I think we may have a conspiracy!!

I think it's racist!

So a 700 is a "Sucks"...

And a MKV is a "Blows"?

Long a$$ read. I guess I missed the concrete facts. Yes Weatherby ammo is hotter, by about 10,000 lbs. At one point in my life I went through magnumitis and went through all the Win mags and moved on to the WBY magnums. I sold all but one German 300, super accurate. At one point I had 4 WBY's in 300, I reloaded and shot them all, I looked, as always, very closely at the cases after shooting, I also made sure a case fired in one gun would chamber in the others. This told me there was some pretty good QC in these 5. What I missed in reading 23 pages was fact, age of the gun in question or whom was it manufactured by? Was it an early one assembled in the USA, Germany, Japan or back in the USA. What caliber was it, are we sure the right cartridge was used. Are we sure it actually happened? I have shot many MK V's, I have owned many MK V's and do not fear them.

+1 Patience Ken it will eventually slide down the screen into obscurity as you put it on one of your posts last year. LOL
Thanks again for bringing this forward. I reload so no problem for me.

Do you attempt to reload your Weatherby(s) to factory spec?

I'm curious about this as many mention that they handload the rounds, so it doesn't matter.

I bought the rifles I have, that are chambered for Weatherby rounds, to get Weatherby performance.

I don't blindly load until they match factory ammo, chronographed, velocities. I do cherry pick load data to get where I want to be. I understand the Weatherby ammo is loaded to higher pressures, in relation to the majority of other factory rounds, as it obvious that it must be so.

I am not 378, but if you missed my question, the answers may give you some information....
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3378526/1


"I don't blindly load until they match factory ammo, chronographed, velocities. I do cherry pick load data to get where I want to be. I understand the Weatherby ammo is loaded to higher pressures, in relation to the majority of other factory rounds, as it obvious that it must be so."

Weatherby cartridges have larger case capacity than most other competing rounds, and the case capacity CAN allow them to get more velocity without having to increase the pressure.... but, we all know they ( wby ammo) is loaded to the gills in pressure, and assuming ( big ?) it is loaded TO SAAMI max, it inherently has no safety issues, hence my earlier thread.... Asking if anyone feels they exceed SAAMI, or can a handloader match Wby ammo's measured velocity.

Allen

And the answer is ------------- Matching factory velocities - while loading to data published by Nosler [ hint: IMR 7828 ] - is not a problem .

So ; Maybe Nosler is in on the conspiricy !

Thanks hemi for good reply on the subject. I've never run factory ammo through my chrony but Mule Deer seems to have studied the factory load speeds and even took the cartridge apart and weighed the powder and stuff like that. He must be one of them mad scientist types with a big laboratory in his basement. LOL

If you follow the loads and recommendations in any of the reputable reloading manuals you will never get yourself in a problem. Trim to length and measure every cartridge-never speculate that if one is the right length that the other 19 will also be. Very wrong.
If you want to see very dangerous situations don't trim your brass and let it grow and grow until it will actually bind or pinch the bullet and then you can have a problem.

Thanks for the replies.

The "other" thread that discussed pressures that started my thread got me realizing I had heard many times in the last 30 years of reading reloading magazines that Wby ammo is difficult to match with handloads, and on the EDGE of pressure. BUT, that was before 7828 was available.

From My thread it was apparent my old information was incorrect, which is great to see. As an example there was a time when an 06 could outperform a 308 by a good 200 fps, with newer powders I believe there is little lost on the shorter case if one selects the right combination, ie the 308 can be very efficient compared to the 06.

LOL at John M, the horse was dead on page 3, I was trying to bring some DUH factor to some postings that seem to be exagerations, overly making the gun the issue, while it seems more logical to me it is an ammo issue, IF AT ALL..... and I don't doubt the incidents reported, more the completeness of these accidents.

I was "loaning" my rem 700 7 rem mag to my son several weeks ago, and looked at some of the fired cases. I worked up loads for the gun using a chronograph and visual indications to determine the hottest / most accurate and loaded with that information. Looking at the cases requires me to relook at that gun in the future to make sure what I did 20 years ago is still safe.....

Allen

Had a nice conversation with Dave Gentry in his shop about action strength right before he died two years ago... he told me the only actions he'd shoot behind without glasses are the Mauser 98, Savage 110 and Weatherby MkV.

John ... speaking of beatin' a dead horse ... you've been asked several times about the person with the missing nose in the pic you posted ... Is it from a MkV mishap?? Or just trying to scare folks?

If you right-click on the image and select properties you can see that the file name is DogBiteNose.jpg

A quick google image search will allow you to find the same image on irishambulance.net