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Bart,

Welcome.

I would like to say that your daddy is partially to blame for my firearm looneyness. I started reading Shooting Times when I was 14yrs. old and have every copy since. I loved reading Skeeters articles on handguns and he inspired me to purchase my first one in 1983, a Ruger Super Blackhawk Stainless .44 mag., because of the column he wrote on the gun in ST. His passing along with Bill Jordan has definitely lowered the standards of that magazine. I have had the pleasure of reading three of his books, and I've also enjoyed your own writings and I can see your fathers influence in them.

Again I welcome you and your knowledge,

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I haven't read Rifle or Handloader much since Ross's departure from Wolfe, there just isn't much worth poring over from the rest of the writers...too much like the 'Drug Store Gun Magazines' G&A, Shooting Times, etc.

Blackpowder Hunting Magazine retains it's high quality production wise, but since Ross left the copy has devolved to vapid pulp like Field & Stream, et al...amateurish intro stuff for the raw beginner and shameless hawking of advertiser's wares, especially the shilling pap from Jim 'Schlock'ey. UGH! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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A friend alerted me that you'd been posting here, Bart. WELCOME! Let us hear from you often.

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Skeeter was a cherished friend and has left a wide, deep chasm here. We were scheduled to hunt together a few times, but the usual conflicts kept him from making it. I'll never forget our last visit.

And I look forward to acquaintance with you.

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Bart, Welcome. As to RS, I have greatly enjoyed his writing on obscure calibers and styles of guns as I have with other writers. (MV) But as a person I tried to get acquainted with him at an NRA national meeting but he was too haughty and arrogant to talk to one who spoke to him. I hope he continues to write. Suppose I would still help him change a flat at night in bad weather. Just my nature. Rusty Zipper


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RZ,

I'm surprised at that. We all have our rocky days, and maybe that was one for Ross. I've found that he can be quiet at times, and so am I. As for haughty or arrogant, I've never seen Ross display such demeanor. He's always been a gentleman.

To my knowledge, Ross is writing for Double Gun Journal and a newer publication, Under Wild Skies.

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Bart, Glad to see you post here. I also agree with you about Ross .
I contacted him a couple years ago and have stayed in contact since. He has always answered my question and even when busy still finds the time to accept a phone call and answer questions



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Ross is good people. Easily one of the most generous people I know.

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I was involved in both national and international pistol and revolver competition for 25 years, so Ross has my vote of confidence. He's a bonified expert in my humble opinion, both concerning handguns,rifles and shotguns. He not only knows his "stuff", but has actually done it,a trait which is becoming more rare in this electronic age of internet gurus.
Howdy Bart; good to see you in the house! One of my old shooting pards Dad is known to slink around the border country with you now and again. James Briseno and I shot for years together down in Douglas and surrounding local matches....good people,and he says the same regarding you.

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I've had conversations with Ross at the SHOT show twice and he seemed glad to discuss guns and writing with one of the unwashed.

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Thanks for coming to the Campfire Mr. Skelton. Please stop in again. My father and I used to try and out sneak each other to the mail box to get to your fathers articles first. Your father's articles were one of the better things my father and I shared and one of the reasons I'm a gun nut. I will never forget those memories. I do enjoy your current articles and hope to read them for a long time.

Sorry to hear about Garry Sitton passing. Thank you for the news. I think it is great that he got his last wishes about his ashes.

Ross S. is one of my favorit writers. I wish him well at this new magazine. Your right about bushmen and there exacting behaviour and there mental isolation from others at times. It is just their nature. It takes all kinds.

Phil Shoemaker is one of kind and I particularly connect with him and his writing.


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All of us if we admit it are many faceted. I'm sure those who have less than congenial feelings about RS may have caught him at a time or in circumstances when his best attributes were not apparent. I'd have to say I'm sure some could say the same about me.
I'm glad that some of you have found him gracious and a generous person.

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I've known Ross for thirty years or so, and consider him to be a friend. Yes, he is opinionated, but I respect his opinions. Best I can tell, he is usually right. I've enjoyed visiting with him about his elk herd management and hunting enterprise. As I recall, he described it as, "I just wanted to prove that a fellow could make a living on a ranch without having a single cow." We've both had cows.

I can only add that after a very pleasant dinner at the SHOT show in Vegas, Ross insisted on picking up the check for my wife and I. When a former pistol champion tells you in a certain tone of voice that he is getting the check, you thank him kindly. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times that has happened in forty years. I considered him a friend even before he picked up the check!

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I've talked with Ross Seyfried only three times, at SHOT Shows.

� cordial
� extremely rude
� cordial

Two out of three ain't bad!


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I've talked with Ross Seyfried only three times, at SHOT Shows.

� cordial
� extremely rude
� cordial

Two out of three ain't bad!


Each time Ross's name comes up your responses are always cordial and rude.
You have stated as much before. Just can't miss an opertuniy I guess........... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />



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There seem to be a lot of knowledgeable folks on this thread with close ties with Ross and hopefully someone can answer a couple of questions I have about his African guiding experience. In the current Under Wild Skys magazine he is listed a editor-at-large and in the letters to the editor he responds to a reader with the statement "Over my ten years of guiding clients in Africa I saw all sorts of success and failures relating to the combination of man and rifle."
Does anyone know where and when Ross guided and for whom?


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As near as I can recall he told me he started in Zambia and finished in Tanzania. Never asked him about time frames.

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That's nice to hear. I've greatly enjoyed his writing over the years and have learned a lot from him. I was always curious about what he'd be up to, whatever it was.


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Each time Ross's name comes up your responses are always cordial and rude.
You have stated as much before. Just can't miss an opertuniy I guess.

� I was trying to counter a post, above, that speaks only of Ross's well known rudeness. I sought to acknowledge that fact and to put it in its proper context as I see it. My intent was to be positive � unlike yours.

� I did not remember that I'd commented before.

� I have not been following this thread.

� It's none of your business what, when, or why I post anything.

� Your public scolding of me does not do you credit, though you may think that it makes you seem high-minded and superior.


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conscienciousness-raising? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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I don't have much info, Phil, but in his description of the .378 Wby Mag in Nosler's #3 manual, Ross briefly describes a hunt on July 4, 1986 when his client used the .378 on a lion. My sister's coonhound/lab got hold of the manual and it's so chewed up I can't even find the date of its publication...


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