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For a guy that can drive one,it don't get much better than the 338Ultra..................
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I agree fully, but the guy that can drive one is rare... I know straight-up I am not even thinking of going there and I find my 375AI fun.
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When I'm hunting Elk or whatever and this guy shows up. This is when I'm glad I have my 338 Rum. I have used my 338 Rum. to take Elk and Bears, it dose this task with great authority. Bamm DRT. Yes this gun has some recoil, I have no problem shooting it. I much like shooting and hunting with my 30-06. Here is my 338 Rum. They are a great round if you can shoot them. Happy Hunting.
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I like shooting mine. It will put big game down pronto
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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It depends largely on what you get used to shooting. I now use my 458WM for most big game. It's heavy, but balances well and is VERY accurate firing a 350gr TSX at 2750 fps. Do I need all that power? No, but neither do I NEED rifles or hunting! Hunting is a sport/recreation for most of us. If it were a matter of survival, my Ruger 96/44 would suffice! Let's not kid ourselves about the rifles needed... We/I choose a rifle/cartridge because of the IDEA behind it... the challenge it represents in load development, accuracy, how well I can shoot it under real-life hunting conditions, it's looks, feel, balance, etc. The reasons are many. I've owned a 340WBY and shot a moose with it. The moose was at 165yds and I shot it offhand. No big deal. The bullet was a 250 NP at 3000 fps. Put about 2000 rounds through that rifle and sold it. I moved on to bigger rounds. Bigger bores make bigger holes, which is to my liking. I also like a 300WM. If stuck with one, that might be it... but I doubt it. It probably would be one of my 45-70's. The point? Shoot what you like and can handle, and don't get hung-up on the opinion of others. That's my conclusion of the matter after over 50 years hunting and shooting. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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Im a pusss. I have a break on mine. But it does shoot, and chit dies right now.
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When I'm hunting Elk or whatever and this guy shows up. This is when I'm glad I have my 338 Rum. I have used my 338 Rum. to take Elk and Bears, it dose this task with great authority. Bamm DRT. Yes this gun has some recoil, I have no problem shooting it. I much like shooting and hunting with my 30-06. Here is my 338 Rum. They are a great round if you can shoot them. Happy Hunting. good picture of the Griz to illustrate the point. Did you take it yourself?
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I really like the 338 Win. it is a 30-06 on steriods with a 210 Nosler at 3005 FPS and a 300 gr. Woodleigh at almost 2500 FPS is pretty hard to beat, that is a very balanced combination..I have shot about all of Africas plainsgame with it, and I have shot a few Cape Buffalo with it..I hunt elk in Idahos thick black forests and all shots are going away and that 300 gr. Woodleigh will really put an elks nose in the needles and I sure dont' want him going down hill into one of our drainages, where packing him out can be days of labor..It also works very well on Bison, Eland and the big bears, in fact more Alaskan guides use the .338 Win as a back up rifle than any other caliber according to a recent survey I read somewhere...Phil shoemaker just purchased a nice 338 Win and I'm sure it will see some use on the big bears in the near future.
I would suggest the .338 Win. for what you need..
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For my personnel preference I don't much care for the .338 Winchester, any rifle that kills from both ends is not real high on my need list.
For you folks that don't mind getting hit in the shoulder with a meat axe, they sure do get lots of bragging about. I stay with the .375H&H, it has a lot more of the gentle giant name for me, and seems to get her done.
Thus saith thr lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeh from the lord. Jeremiah 17:5 KJV
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3sixbits I own both a 338 win and a 375 H&H. How is it that you feel the 375 is more gentle than the 338? I feel if its apples to apples loads and bullet weight wise the 338 doesnt kick any more than a 375. My dad had a browning A-bolt in 338 win and that was the most miserable gun I have ever shot. It flat out hurt you every shot. I dont care how tough you are. It was light and had tire rubber for a recoil pad. If you compare same weighted rifles with good recoil pads for me the 338 and 375 are in the same ballpark recoil wise. Dean
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I've never understood the claims of the 338 being so much harsher than the 375. The only bearing point I can see is perhaps most 338's are lighter than a 375.
I guess the real argument is, if you're going to jump past a 30 mag, why stop at 33 when you can have a 375?
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The 338 and above are not for everyone but if you can shoot one well then you are a step above the smaller Cal's. Recoil is a small price to pay for the killing power of the 338 . The hardest kicking rifle i believe i ever shot was a Mark 5 German Wby I owned in 300 Wby Mag shooting the 220 gr factory load, it would kick the snot out of you and 338 RUM seems pleasant compare to that Wby
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3sixbits I own both a 338 win and a 375 H&H. How is it that you feel the 375 is more gentle than the 338? I feel if its apples to apples loads and bullet weight wise the 338 doesnt kick any more than a 375. My dad had a browning A-bolt in 338 win and that was the most miserable gun I have ever shot. It flat out hurt you every shot. I dont care how tough you are. It was light and had tire rubber for a recoil pad. If you compare same weighted rifles with good recoil pads for me the 338 and 375 are in the same ballpark recoil wise. Dean I've had a .338 Winchester model 70 for about 40 years now, not much different from any other model 70 in .375H&H I own, I have never had anybody shoot that rifle that didn't say it kicked less than any of my .375H&H's they shot, it ain't just me. The darn thing just flat out hurts. Of course you can look at the rifle and tell it never got much hunting time with me, yes there is a reason.
Thus saith thr lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeh from the lord. Jeremiah 17:5 KJV
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I've never understood the claims of the 338 being so much harsher than the 375. The only bearing point I can see is perhaps most 338's are lighter than a 375.
I guess the real argument is, if you're going to jump past a 30 mag, why stop at 33 when you can have a 375? Even better than the 338 is the 340. The .002 make more difference than you'd expect.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Before I get flamed that's a paraphrase of a paraphrase by Sitka deer of a gun clerk's overheard statement.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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I'm pretty sure Art has mentioned that one to me in the past.
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The 338WM recoil is much quicker, IMO&E than the 375H&H. I hate every 338 I have ever been forced to shoot. The 375 has never been a problem.
As my Grandfather told me once about cutting corners, "If you are flying to NY they won't make you get off some bus in Chicago..."
Still crack up every time I think about the 340 comment...
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Even better than the 338 is the 340. The .002 make more difference than you'd expect.
Oh yes... at around a 340, the need for blue tape on the muzzle also decreases!
"For joy of knowing what may not be known we take the golden road to Samarkand." James Elroy Flecker
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Trying to remember the one I told you in Sportys.
"'06 inherently kicks more than a 338 or 375."
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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