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Thank you much for narrowing down my suspicions. It is most definitely NOT a 1899F s.r.c....no holes for ring attachment. I suppose the next step would be to get a letter from that Savage historian fellow. Thanx again.

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What I don't get it with investment castings and CAD machinery, no reason why a 99 could not be made today. 22-250, 260, 7,mm08, 308,339 Fed and 358 WRA.

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Oldman1942, Savage just looked into it. Apparently they couldn't get the entry price range down to a point where they thought it would be marketable.

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They are nuts. With decent 300 Savage EGs bringing $700 and nobody making a modern lever gun, except that Browning abortion, I'll bet they could sell em' for a grand easy.
Hell, build them in Turkey at least then they would be the first standard grade Savages with nice wood!

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Oldman1942, I am no expert at anything, but I see a similarity between where we are now and where folks were in 1919. Boys coming home from war in 1918-1919 who'd never owned a rifle all of a sudden wanted a gun like they learned to shoot in the Army "over there", and bolt rifles took off like a rocket. Now the boys coming home want an AR-15. In proportion, I think there are fewer and fewer of us that appreciate walnut and finely blued steel. Also, there are a lot of 99's out there for those of us that want them. I am not arguing that you and I would not love to have a brand new Savage 99 built like the old days. However, I think if Savage had a market case, they'd be making them. I also don't think the 99 is a particularly easy design to produce cheaply. Of course, I've been wrong before, and will be in the future. God Bless and best wishes, Marc

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Originally Posted by oldman1942
What I don't get it with investment castings and CAD machinery, no reason why a 99 could not be made today. 22-250, 260, 7,mm08, 308,339 Fed and 358 WRA.


Ive been preaching the same thing for several years. I know Savage wil have capital costs, but I beleive the market would support adequate production to amortize the costs (if it is of good quality).

The capital costs should not be too high as the design is complete and the major costs relate to digitizing the specs, but it is do-able!

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Hello, I'm new here, and a new (finally) 99 owner. I've had my eye on this one for a few years and when she became available I jumped! I'm guessing it's a 99A, s/n 275XXX puts her 1918-1925 (?), chambered in 30-30, Savage 1899 Model is stamped in the front receiver ring. Any comments and opinions would be appreciated, as there is a wealth of expertise to be had here.
Thanks!

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Bob99 give us more info barrel length straight ,tapered ,type front site ,rear site ,butt plate crecent orslight curve much eiser to identify....welcome to campfire,,norm grin grin

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Thanks Norm, barrel measures 26" to the bolt face, round and tapered. The front sight is a white metal blade in a dovetail.
Rear sight is marked Savage Arms Corp Utica NY Pat Pend. The barrel has 5 patent numbers, the last being June 1 1909.
The receiver is marked Savage 1899 Model. S/N 275998. It has a crescent butt plate. It shows a few dings and normal handling wear, but it's totally unmolested otherwise. Never crossed paths with Bubba (or 'Tater)! I would eventually like to find a set of Stith mounts and a Lyman Alaskan to compliment it, but I'll have to save my pennies for that. BTW, I paid $280 for the 99 smile

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BOB you should be in jail you stold that one ,that is one heck of a deal in my books///// grin .ser no manufactured 1924 baller markings match .book says they stopped that mod in 27.check butt plate should be savage quality trade mark logo at bottom.if there are small dents in stock you should be able to take them out with steam,book says finish was varnish...nice gun nice find enjoy .. grin grin wink


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Thanks Norm, I know, I know! I stole it wink But I also relieved an idiot of the resposibility of being it's custodian smirk he lost it in pawn sick. BTW it came in a Eubanks Leather scabbard. I'm still looking to clarify the exact model however. My best guess so far is a transitional 99B due to the 26" barrel and the 'SAVAGE 1899 MODEL' on the receiver. Anybody got an opinion? Anyway, guess I might be afflicted now, thinking of haulin' my black rifle off to the gun show next weekend as potential trade bait, just in case there are any nice 99's to be had. A 250-3000 T/D?....hmm, I know I'd prefer older to newer, kinda like staight grip stocks. No pressed checkering, no detachable clips... whistle

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Don't use the word transitional... always confuses things.

That serial number should put it into mid 1925, and according to Murray's it is an 1899A. The 1899A was made up through 1927.

Now... why all of the other 1899 models transitioned into the 99 series around 1921 but the 1899A stayed rather than become the 99A is something I've never seen addressed. But that's what it is. Nice gun.

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Thank you sir, it's the 26" barrel and the location of the 'SAVAGE 1899 MODEL' on the front receiver ring, as opposed to being stamped on the barrel that's confusing me. I was using the chart at savage99.com for reference.
To quote;

Info on 1899's*:
Note: "Model 1899" marked on barrel.

and;

Info on early 99's*:
Note: "Model 99" marked on the top of the frame ring. Some "transition" models have "Model 1899" marked on the top of the frame ring.


I also noted this; *Keep in mind, never say always! wink

I'm kind of new to 1899s' & 99s' and trying to educate myself (with some degree of accuracy).
Thanks again sir.

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No problem.. And I'd throw away those quotes you just brought up. They are misleading.. Grab a copy of Murrays (find info on ordering it from the "Misc Good Info" thread), and pay attentions to barrel length, stock style and serial number. Will get you through most models. But it's still only a guide.. come here for the most accurate info. grin

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Thanks, I knew I'd found the right place. And a copy of Murrays' book is next.

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you are right Calhoun i missed ser no by 5000 must be getting old . bob the 1899 B is octagonal barrel. Murrars book does not always tell you when some of parts changed or could be ordered sites being one of the biggies .
Calhoun.how often do you findbarrel markings out by 1 or2 styles according to ser no???norm. grin


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Right Norm, I was thinking 99B, not 1899B, based on the ID chart at savage99.com smirk

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Hey guys... Time to start a new post...!!! This post is for posting new rifles, not for discussion. Great info but lets get it on the forums...!!! smile


Thanks, Mike...


All said, the Savage 99 is a genius of a rifle. Although no longer produced, it remains highly revered, as it was the foundation from which Arthur Savage built one of America's great gun companies. >> (Jon Y. Wolfe) <<
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I think this thread has probably outlived it's initial interest.. might be time to unsticky it.

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