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Opinions wanted. I picked up a NIB Rem Model 7 with fiberglass stock in 7mm SAUM for a steal. Great round I know. I have a .270 wsm Rem XCR take off that I was looking to do something with. I currently have a .270, .280, and am building a .280AI. Now I know that I have tons of overlap and will not gain anything with one over the other. Would you keep it as a 7mm SAUM or rebarrel it for fun? The saum basically duplicates the .280AI in short action and the .270 wsm can run a little hotter than the standard. If I rebarrel then I would basically have a .280 and .280AI, and a .270 and .270 Improved. Thoughts? Lee
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I would leave as is with the 7SAUM(just because I'd like one).
Wonder if a WSM would be a bad thing with the Model 7 action?
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The .270 WSM is a fine round, but in my experience the 7mm SAUM does all the same things and a little easier. Unless you just like to dink with various cartridges (something I admit to myself) I'd leave it alone.
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I concur; better choice of bullets/loads wether you reload or not....
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I love the 7 SAUM, if you roll your own you'll have no problems.
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Lee- I had a very similar encounter with a bargain 7SAUM and delusions of a project. Like you, I have gobs of overlap in that neighborhood. What cured me of the delusions was scoping it and a couple quick loads.....it remains a 7SAUM.
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I like the 7 SAUM & would leave it that way, though I don't particularly care for the Model 7 package.
I'd love one in the old Ti configuration.
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Would the a WSM have trouble feeding into a rebarreled SAUM?
Whatever a 7x57 can do a 270 can do better.
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Personally I'd leave it, I've been around 2 or 3 M7's in 300 WSM and they were all a nightmare when it came to feed.
Which is to say that they fed like generic dog poop!
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from my experience a model 7 in 300 wsm didn't feed with a flip and there were problems with factory federal ballistic tips fitting in the mag box. i have 2 model 7's in 300 saum
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Looks like the .270 WSM is 25-50 fps faster with same bullet weights. Not worth it to me unless maybe I only shot factory ammo as there is a bit more to choose from in .270 WSM out there.
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Thanks guys. That's what I wanted to hear! I'll keep it as is. I do reload so that was never a consideration and since I reload for the .270 and .280 I have lots of bullets for each so that was also not a problem.
Anybody want a .270 wsm XCR take off?
Anybody want to help me scope it? Lee
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Anybody want to help me scope it? Lee 2-7x33LR Leupold gets my vote.
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I'm thinking about 2.5-8x36 VX-3, 3-9x40 Conquest, or one of the AV/Z-3 Swaro's. May also look at the 2-7x36 Kahles CL. No experience with the 2-7x33LR Leupy. Talk me into it.
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Mounted a Leupold Silver VX-1 2-7 Heavy Duplex on my stainless Model 7 7mm SAUM. Looks good ! Not over-kill.
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Ebby- Mine sports a 2.5x8 VXIII in Talley lightweights but I could easily like the DoberDotz in a 2x7 or the new Z3.
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partial to the 7SAUM. vote is on the 6x36.
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Ya, keep the 7SAUM and put a loopy 6x36 with dotz on top.. In talley LW's of course.
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Essentially the same performance, the 7 SAUM is a keeper for me too. I loaded it down this year for my wifes cow hunt with a 100 grain X bullet. I was contemplating a 25 SAUM until I shot it. Mine has a 3x9 Bushnell Elite on it.
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I have both, 1 700 in 270 WSM, 1 700 in 7mm SAUM, and 2 7s in 7mm SAUM. AFAICT, they fill the same niche and produce the same down-range results with the 140 grain bullets that I'm shooting from both of them.
I prefer the 700 in 7mm SAUM because it is SS and I generally prefer SS to CM in my "working" rifles, but they function equally well. 1 of the 7s in 7mm SAUM keeps asking to be rebarreled to 25 SAUM, but I'm resisting the pressure.
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