Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire SEATTLE SECURITY GUARDS REFUSE TO HELP GIRL BEING ATTACKED BY GANGSTERS.

Then why not focus on the people who actually [bleep] with her? You gonna beat up everybody who drives by without stopping if her car breaks down?

Having to hire an attorney because you beat up some guys who were following a policy created by an attorney in a bit ironic no?

Just saw your edit. [bleep] you and your whole "I'll beat up people who don't do what I say on the internet that I'd have done" schtick.

No doubt somebody should have helped that girl but to put it off on the guards exclusively is bullschit.

Job or not, I'd have to get involved. Those attackers are simply sub human scum.

Dude,,,I'm tired,,,and refuse to duel with a man with an unloaded gun.

Are you Maser using a different handle??

Have a nice evening. My daughter carries a .38 S&W hammerless since her friend got raped and beat up. Dad can't be there all the time....and I left out the part about "beating them up" during our range session.


You assume too lightly when it comes to daughters.....

Good for your daughter. I wish more women would carry revolvers. It might keep their daddys from having to make some difficult decisions.

For what it's worth, I'm in corp. security management and have had guards ask me about this very issue. They've had the observe and report thing drilled into them but can't imagine standing by like these guys did. I tell them (off the record) to let their conscience be their guide and that I'll do what I can for them when it shakes out.

Daddys don't make difficult decisions when it comes to their daughters. We make quick and decisive decisions.

Good luck with your job. No harm here....just don't be so quick to judge folks.

I am a security officer in Australia. The bizzarre truth is the vast majority of Security commpanies forbid their guards to become involved in any violent incident or in fact even stop a shoplifter. The main reason for this is money , they dont want to be sued .The transit authority that hired on these so called guards would have been fully aware of this.

The police unions also actively oppose security guards having any significant power as they want the overtime . Basically these guards were just there to ring the police if something started. What happens here on new years eve etc is if a police officer is with you they can deputise the guards thereby protecting them from law suit or dismissal. So in this case one police officer with those guards to help could havev handled the whole thing . Also be aware that if one of these kids! shoots you you will be [bleep] for life with little chance of any compensation or sympathy from the company. Many ruthless companies hire labour that attracts some form of government money for new immigrants, minorities, disadvantaged etc and then undercut established firms with trained experienced officers. All in those guards and everyone associated with employing them should live in shame.

A little backround on the situation.....Seattle PD used to patrol the tunnel. King County Metro paid them OT and the Seattle PD guys ate the overtime up like cookies. King County Sheriff Dept wanted their guys to get the OT even though the tunnel is in the Seattle city limits. The Countys reasoning was because they are responsible for Metro's security needs that they should be able to reap those benefits of OT.

Well the county agreed to go with the Sheriffs Dept and that angered Seattle PD and as such Seattle PD won't go anywhere near the tunnel. Since the county doesn't patrol it as regularly they contracted to a private security firm who are instructed to report but not intervene. Stupid of course but this is Seattle and the democraps and unions carry weight.

Unfortunately serving and protecting is only a suggestion and subject to the corruption of money.

Sad....but not in my household. That's unreal.....unbelieveable....

I just posted on the( tracking cell phones thread) this info which is relevant to these remarks. 22 police on Gold Coast Australia under Federal investigation for importing drugs, selling service pistols to drug runners , stealing cocaine from evidence lockers and ignoring Lebanese bikie gang(Bandito,S) doing drug deals under there noses in nightclubs. All this in return for money,drugs,sex and alcohol..There are plenty of good cops but there not white Knights..

AcesNeights: Thanks for that clarification. Now I know I will not go there. What a bunch of wimps and waste of money. Looks like scum know they are in no danger.

How anyone could defend what my lying eyes saw in that tape, is beyond my understanding? All jobs have rules that are overridden when justified. Half of the lawyers in my small town would be on a plane to visit with that girl, if they saw that tape.

1minute---Your welcome. It is beyond me how any man with a pair could stand by while that happened...perhaps thats why I wouldn't take a job that castrated my ability to recognize and defend against such blatent wrongs. Nor will I spend time in Seattle. When I have to go I always take my .45. In addition to the .380 which is always along for the ride.

I dont think many defend it ,they are pointing out that as usual theres more to it than meets the eye. This stuff happens constantly everywhere its condoned by lawyers, politicians, ceos.Those people should not be security guards, lots of women and old dudes that cant earn money any other way.

Just thank god you are retired and living in Kansas and dont have to live in a big modern city
you aint missing nuthin pilgrim.

All I know about Seattle is that boring chick flick " sleepless in Seattle" and that Fraser Crane lives there!
now I have another reason not to visit..

Yeah but in Washington state and even in Seattle one can still buy and own handguns....

You've heard how f'd up Seattle is but it doesn't compare to Australia in stupid nanny state socialism....you Aussies have cornered that market.

Here I was thinking I lived and worked among the "little kiddies"(for years my school's rep was that we led the city in homicide suspects, which I'll admit in San Antone ain't all THAT many, after all its been YEARS since anyone was pulled out of class and arrested for a homicide ).

And yeah, until it happens it ain't but an idle boast, but I'm pretty sure I'd react exactly as I wrote, putting myself in front of the victim and not standing by while she got stomped. Teacher reflexes, ya know? Or maybe its the Irish "cannon fodder" gene.

Do we get virgins on the other side too?

Birdwatcher

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

I cant help but think we are at the very precipice, some of you are more than willing to have stood by and let this girl be beat till darn near death. For the love of pete, we have to rise up as a nation and say enough is enough. We will not be tried for helping the helpless, we will not be shamed for doing what is right.

Well its the truth that no one wants to talk about. Everything/everybody would be better off.

Perhaps the so-called "security guards" were from the same gang ?