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Does anyone have any experience shooting Rem's Traingular barrels, w/r accuracy?
I'd be interested in hearing how well they shoot? Lots of them for sale on the Internet, and if they shoot, I might buy one, specifically in 223.

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I always wondered if they had studied how accuracy was affected by which way the triangle lay in the channel.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
I always wondered if they had studied how accuracy was affected by which way the triangle lay in the channel.


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I don't have a 223 but I do have a 25-06. It shoots sub-moa, which is good enough for hunting. Remington calls it a Model 700 XHR (eXtreme Hunting Rifle). It has a camo stock, a triangular barrel, and the externally adjustable trigger. It is a pretty decent package, but the action isn't as smooth as their 700 CDLs and BDLs.




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The triangular part of the barrel doesn't lay in the barrel channel, only the round part of the barrel. The triangular barrel doesn't go all the way back to the chamber. It ends just inside of the front of the stock.




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Don,

I can't tell you about a 223, but I'm as happy as can be with my VTR 308.

I have several loads for it using 168 grain match bullets that I expect to go 1/2 moa (often less) for three shots, and that's out to 300 yards if there's no wind.

I've also shot many ten shot 1" groups at 100 yards using an old M1A favorite: LC M852 match brass, thrown charges of 41.5 grains of H4895 and a 168 grain match bullet. On a cool day it will do it without cooling the barrel between shots.

I expect a VTR in 223 would do even better having more steel and less hole in the barrel.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I always that that triangular barrel thing was pure asthetics. Kind of like a gimmick.

If it truly enhances accuracy, I'll be surprised.

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I didn't buy mine because of the triangle, a friend had one and I liked the way it handled. Then one showed up at a little shop I frequent and I picked it up on a whim, the excuse being to keep the round count down on my hunting rifles. grin

I haven't done the calculations but it's likely a stiffness issue. For a fixed cross sectional area the moment of inertia of the cross section may be increased by moving more of the cross section away from its centroid.

So if the cross section of Remington's profile has a greater moment of inertia than a round barrel of the same weight then it will be stiffer and that potentially means more accurate.

No matter what it is a sales gimmick, everything "different" is.

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I'm suprised they didn't put serrations on the top, that way it could double as a tree pruner and fish scaler grin.

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The slotted muzzle brake can probably open bottles.

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if stevens can make a $235 bolt gun that shoots factory fodder into a 1.5" group then the friggen remington folks should have every rifle the make shooting .25" cloverleafs for what they charge.


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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
I'm suprised they didn't put serrations on the top, that way it could double as a tree pruner and fish scaler grin.


grin grin grin ... Talk about a multi-porpose tool...

Very funny, John!


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Originally Posted by mathman
Don,

I can't tell you about a 223, but I'm as happy as can be with my VTR 308.

I have several loads for it using 168 grain match bullets that I expect to go 1/2 moa (often less) for three shots, and that's out to 300 yards if there's no wind.


I expect a VTR in 223 would do even better having more steel and less hole in the barrel.

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Well, I can say a little about my 223 VTR................

Mine does way better than I expected right outta the box, ie, no bedding or stock change which I was anticipating having to do.

I dropped a 3x9 scope on it, which was the only extra around, made up loads with LC brass, 55 gr V-maxes, & 75 gr A-maxes & RL-15 & VArget & starting shooting, after UBC'ing the barrel. I also did some barrel polishing before the UBC & even the 1st cleaning was a breeze.

Shoot bugholes with both bullets & both bullets more or less in the same group at 100 yards.

It did, however, need a trigger re-spring job & I had the firing pin hole bushed & the pin turned..........typical poor fit on Rem's small bolt face & flowing primers waaaay too much.

Haven't tried optimizing the loads yet but when it warms up a bit, 4895, TAC & 335 will get a wringing out. A higher mag scope will probably end up on it as well........maybe a 4-14x which won't hurt groups either.

I didn't buy it for the triangular barrel, I just bought the package I wanted (walking varmint rifle) & the VTR was it.

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I also bought a .223 VTR, not for the triangular barrel but for the "9" twist. I have been delighted with accuracy and haven't had any problems with primer cratering.
If I needed another .223 for under $700, I would buy another without hesitation.


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I didn't buy it for the triangular barrel, I just bought the package I wanted (walking varmint rifle) & the VTR was it.


Same reason I just picked up a 204 R.

The men from Remington who designed the Tri-barrel are serious shooters and knew what they were doing.

Also beats having to look at a "Pretty Boy Browning".




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If you like it, buy it, but don't buy the hype that it's superior. Never saw a Pope with a Triangular barrel.

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Thanks for the replies. I appreciate them.
Sounds like they shoot very well. I like what you all say about the accuracy.
And, I didn't know about the barrel being round on the bottom in the stock's barrel channel, and triangular forward of that.
I must say they look good. Didn't like them initially, but they are growing on me.. It's a geriatric thing... grin
There is a triangle barreled rifle in my future.
Thanks again,

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I just picked up a XHR from my local fun shop today in 7 RM. Swore I wouldn't buy one but when I saw it in person it does kind of grow on you. I'm still up in the air on the stock and trigger, but I think I'm going to ring it out a bit before I start fiddling with it.

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I have seen an unusual amount of used ones for sale on various forums I frequent, I have always wondered why.

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