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75 vmax, meet 85 hollowpoint .264.
and if the .25-06 gets a TSX, put one of those in the swede, and can go heavier.
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75 vmax, meet 85 hollowpoint .264.
and if the .25-06 gets a TSX, put one of those in the swede, and can go heavier. and much, much slower....seems like a step in the wrong direction... bigger load, smaller motor...
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absolutely nothing wrong with the swede...
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john, the data printed for the swede is archaic and includes a large "pad" of safety for the old actions.
i have a swede built on a m98 action and shoot it at modern pressures and it will do much much more than most imagine. it will fling a 120 as fast as a .270 will throw a 130, given same pressure and barrel length.
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.25, .26, or .27, they're close enough to be in the same class... the 6.5 is a cool old round, but has NO advantage over others of it's class with bigger motors... on either end of the spectrum...
if a guy wants something, he just wants it... reason enough for him to acquire it, if he's able...
the -06 based cartridges mentioned above DO have distinct ballistic advantages...
i'm guessing that the OP is well aware of what each cartridge will do... my first post advising the 25-06 was based on convenience and availability of components... i avoided the ballistic superiority of the cartridge intentionally, as it's not truly germane to the choice, for the stated purposes...
i do have a bit of difficulty letting bullshit ride, though... and any claimed ballistic advantage for the swede is just that...
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john, that's true with the mild loadings. load them to the same pressures and watch the swede beat on the .25-06 after 300 yards of being basically the same. come on...
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you may have to do some homework, most ballistics websites have only the data listed for the mild loads. try norma's website maybe.
i have to admit to being a little annoyed with the "bullshit" label, i could have thrown that out about you but chose to listen respectfully.
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ok, hodgdon's website says IMR4831. 48.5 grains, 120 grain bullet, 2913 fps.
so we're within 100 fps of a .270 with the same length barrel and 130 grain bullet.
the .270 is listed at 130 grain bullet at 3085 at the fastest. this is non-TSX for both.
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you may have to do some homework, most ballistics websites have only the data listed for the mild loads. try norma's website maybe.
i have to admit to being a little annoyed with the "bullshit" label, i could have thrown that out about you but chose to listen respectfully. all right then partner... you load yours, i'll load mine... where you're getting more performance from a cartridge with 15% less powder capacity than the 25-06, with the same pressures is beyond me... out of "respect", post your loads, velocities, load densities and chamber pressures....
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rephrase. the .264" bullet is a tiny bit better at very long ranges. wasn't saying there is some huge difference, thought we were doing theory here. and i posted loads from hodgdon above your last post.
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6.5 over 25 in this case...
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Make him happy, mjbgalt -- get one chambered in 6.5-06, and then his arguement goes away.
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was thinking i would maybe chamber my new savage in 6.5-06 but i still need a varmint rifle.
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25-06...because it is stainless.
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