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ok i have shot about everything i had a 340 built just for long rang elk hunting it killed like the hammer of thor and 700 yards was nothing it was built on a pre 64 mod 70 and had a fairly light 28 inch barrel. it was the worst kicking rifle i have ever shot so i has a 375 barrel in it now and i shoot my pre 64 mod 70 300 weatherby it will kills them as far as you can hit them with a 200 frain barnes tsx bullet oh i had a 338 baced on a 416 rigby case a 336 bases on the 404 jeffery case it just my opinion but it just not worth all the fuss and trouble so i will stick with the 300 weatherby i will say one i have not tryed and know it will be awsome is the 300 jarret
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A friend believes in a 338/378 Weatherby for all of his elk hunting... he hand loads it with Nosler Partitions, 250 grainers..
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I bet that allen magnum is a barrel burning SOB. I have a 338 edge and I am happy with it.
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338 Ultra will work just fine, as will a 300 Win mag or Wby or Ultramag like some other guys have suggested. You can run the 200 gr Accubond with a BC of .588 at 2900-2950 out of a 300 Win. The Ultra will do 3150 fps or so with the same bullet.
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Something on your mind...? Dober
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ok i have shot about everything i had a 340 built just for long rang elk hunting it killed like the hammer of thor and 700 yards was nothing it was built on a pre 64 mod 70 and had a fairly light 28 inch barrel. it was the worst kicking rifle i have ever shot so i has a 375 barrel in it now and i shoot my pre 64 mod 70 300 weatherby it will kills them as far as you can hit them with a 200 frain barnes tsx bullet oh i had a 338 baced on a 416 rigby case a 336 bases on the 404 jeffery case it just my opinion but it just not worth all the fuss and trouble so i will stick with the 300 weatherby i will say one i have not tryed and know it will be awsome is the 300 jarret Sorry... but DUDE... a tiny bit of punctuation/paragraphing would go a long ways to me not having a headache trying to read this post.
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I bet that allen magnum is a barrel burning SOB. I have a 338 edge and I am happy with it. Barrels are cheap, the performance is priceless. Until you have shot one of the 408 based 338s it is impossible to understand the jump in performance. 700 yards is not even warming these things up. I have upwards of 400 rounds down range with my 338 AM and I have babied it pretty well. I expect at least another 400-500.
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Something on your mind...? Dober Yes - Wind, doping it, and the ability of a wounded Elk to travel far distances. But, you guys have your minds made up.
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And we have put in the practice and have killed a lot of elk to help us make up our minds...  Side note, how many elk have you killed, how often do you hunt them and how many rounds a year do you send down range during practice @ 700 yds...? Thx Dober
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Barrels are cheap?..could have fooled me. Performance does not have to come at 800 rnds a barrel.The 338 ultra,340 weatherby,338 edge,338 Lapua are tremendous long range elk rounds and will get it done very well. You will also get 1500-2000 rnds out of them.Another thing to consider is when you step up from the ultra's,Edge and Lapua the Muzzle blast just gets real nasty which isn't a good thing.
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Well I also have had the .338 RUM and do still have the 340, and the .338 Ultra Maxx it's and improved version of the edge, and I also have the .338 Allen.
I will say this there is no comparison between the rest and the 338 Allen, absolutely none, it's in a class by it's self.
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Probably right. Would that be under 18 pounds?
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Something on your mind...? Dober Yes - Wind, doping it, and the ability of a wounded Elk to travel far distances. But, you guys have your minds made up. One other question I'd have is what is it that you experienced that soured you on the idea that well practiced and disciplined shooters can or cannot take game at longer distances? Thx Dober
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And we have put in the practice and have killed a lot of elk to help us make up our minds... Side note, how many elk have you killed, how often do you hunt them and how many rounds a year do you send down range during practice @ 700 yds...? Thx Dober I hunt elk every year and have for 14 years on public land. I take an Elk every other year on average. My Range is only 500 yards long, so I never practice at 700. On Average I kill my elk at under 75 yards. EDIT: My average would be higher except for helping my children learn to elk hunt. I don't count their kills in my average.
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340 WBY u can find ammo if u need at most gun shops.
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Very interesting thread. I had a .340 Wby made back in '92 for a brown bear rifle which subsequently became my long range elk rifle; however according to "long range" here, it is a compromise with 24"barrel and a weight at 8.5 lbs.; my long range kill was a few yards short of 500 yds and several more over 450 yds. The round is capable of killing much further than I'm willing to shoot and frankly all the cartridge I desire to shoot at soft skinned game; however I find this long range niche of shooters and equipment very interesting.
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If 24 isn't enough for a 340 then boy did I ever good up when I built my first one. I put a 4.5 weight Schneider on my old 700 and cut it to 340 and just plain ran amuck and filled up several arks. Big time screwed the pooch on that one I guess.. My next two tubes were 24 and 25 and I noticed no diff...hmm Dober
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The limiting factor for me and practice in exceedingly expensive farm country is a range that affords the long ranges needed to stretch the cartridge and myself. I'm lucky I have a local cattle feeder/farmer who let's me use his makeshift range that we can just eek 500 yards out of.
On a related topic, our local clubs, community, DNR, and the NRA have monies available to build a multiple-event, multiple-station range in our area involving shotgun sports, archery, and handgun shooting sports-great- but get this: the NRA liaison told our local representative all that's really needed for a center fire rifle range is a 100 yds. I can't believe it!
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