Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How Arizona Plays Out.....

With the current Administration as it is and politics as they are, here is my educated GUESS as to how this national entanglement will play out.

Feds acquiesce and, in conjunction with the border states,full state's border's fences,however sufficient, will be built with the feds providing near ample military resources to assist in enforcing the borders.

Feds provide funding for state military entities to enforce the borders,as well.

Enlarged enforcement efforts and increased penalties against US employers who hire illegals.

A scenario, similar to Bush's pathway to citizenship for illegals already inside the US,will be argued for and against for months and will become law before November 4th or a stronger version of Bush's proposed plan will became law by June of next summer.

As I said, it's my educated guess so don't shoot the messenger.

How do you folks read it?

I don't see it that way at all. What I see happening is the administratio prohibiting ICE to remove any illegals that are picked up as a result of this new law and thereby nullifying the effects of the law. I also forsee litigation between the feds and AZ over the legality of the law. This administration is far too concerned about the hispanic vote to acquiesce to AZ. just my opinion.

I think you're wrong Bob...
The next bit of "change" we'll get forced down our throats or up our asses will be amnesty which will in all likelihood include language to streamline & expedite legal immigration...
It's the only way he'll get the votes for reelection in 2012.

The dems at the federal level are already licking their chops. They see this as a golden opportunity to put reform on the headlines, even though they don't have the votes to actually pass it. That way, they can point to the latino voters come november and say "look, we're trying, we need more time"

The Feds will fight it tooth and nail.

For whatever reason, the leadership of both political parties want this country flooded with illegals.

Lindsey Graham is the point man for the GOP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dUvVcBQFU

All of the Western Border States should jump on board with AZ and make the Government have to honor the immigration laws. The Dem's could care less about the crime problems that follow the illegals in this country all they want is their vote and to stay in power. AZ law enforcement will pick them up and the Fed Government will turn them loose. The Obama Administration will tie this law up in court as unconstitutional

Right now,I'd settle if Texas would initiate a Bill similar to Arizona's and ante up the pressure.

Texas needs to jump on this....would need a special session of the legislature, but it would ratchet up the drama before November.

I see the Obama's response as lawsuits, injunctions and fed grand juries investigating the violations of the wets' civil rights. And a call for accelerated consideration of comprehensive amnesty legislation to get the illegals eligible to vote by 2012.

he feels nothing for the real Americans whose lives and livelihoods are being destroyed by the invasion, or the impending bankruptcy of the border states. his sympthies are completely with the invaders.

So far, I'm getting my ass kicked in the educated guess department.

Best call in a bet!

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Rick Perry to do anything which will buck the Republican leadership.

They've demonstrated that they're in favor of amnesty, and Perry is trying to get his foot in the D.C. door.

you need to stop reciting RP talking points and look at what Perry has been doing.....he's ridden the immigration issue from the cellar to reelection.

We'll see

The feds will fight it tooth and nail, as already mentioned both parties want to claim the votes. I think the only way it won't be put down would be if all the border states jumped on the bandwagon with Arizona and stood firm, but the chances of that happening are slim to none.

Personally I think theres a much better solution to getting rid of all the illegals - announce across the country that all illegals have 60 days to beat feet back across the border, after that 60 day grace period we're going to issue unlimited hunting licenses for illegals at a cost of $10, with no bag limits. I would imagine that would be the end of our illegal immigration problem.

I'm inclined to agree with you, though I see where B is coming from. I distrust Gov. Goodhair, but he is a naked opportunist who has seen the light of the new populism. He is practically a Tea Partier already. Look for Jerry Brown to do the same thing. He has always shown both a populist and, dare I say it, "mavericky" streak. They are both wildcards in the border fiasco.

I think if there is any real enforcement on the border, it will have to be the states or locals that do it and it will be over the Feds most stringent objections.

You talking 10 years ago?

If she says so, it must be true. Right?

I agree that the feds will try to block this, but AZ will continue to enforce their law. As things roll through the courts, other states will pass resolutions in support of AZ or enact their own laws with similar language. AZ will build a tent and concertina wire holding facility and when the feds refuse to deport, they will strengthen the border and send them back south across AZ's border. Then AZ will make it a felony with 10 years jail time and seizure of all assets if anyone deported returns to that state. The illegals will then stay out of AZ once deported and flock to CA and other liberal states.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think ten years ago, Dubya was Governor of Texas and Goodhair was Lt. Governor.

How can the fed resist the new AZ law by claiming illegality when it mirrors fed laws already on the books?