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What on earth do you have that isn't working with a 139 Horn? I've found the flat base soft point to be incredibly accurate in any 7 I've run them in from big to small..
Dober
(side note I picked up some 120 NBT's today...grin)
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I have a Remington CDL that doesn't shoot them well at all.......Well let me rephrase. I haven't got it to shoot well yet. I tried it with Factory loads and it shot a lil over 1" @ 100yds but when I handload them i just can't get it to group under 2". So far the 120gr has shot the best but it's something else going on cause once I started handloading for it I started to get a flier all of a sudden. I'm not experienced enough to figure it out yet but I will...lol
Like you, the 139gr has always been acurrate in the 7mm Rem mags I have owned or shot, and has worked very well on deer.
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Hmm, something mechanical, bedding, scope honest etc?
Dober
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Check the locking lugs for contact- It costs nothing to check and sometimes solves problems in M700s
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Dober, Let us know how those 120 NBTs go (especially with RL17, which may be a little slow for that bullet, but never know). Every 7-aught-8 I have tried them in with RL15 or Ramshot Big Game, loves them.
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I'm gonna give it a go just for giggles, so far 17's worked well with the 139's-175's so I'm really curious as much as anything.
I just opened the box, stubby lil buggers, have you used them on big game much?
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The problem with the handloads might be as simple as bullets not being concentric with the case. This often happens when switching from factory loads (which tend to be fairly concentric) to handloads, which often are not.
The symptoms make me doubt whether the bullets are seated straightly in the handloads.
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my step mom shoots a 788 carbine in 7mm/08 and its been a great one. We havent played with the R17 in it yet, but the way it shoots the 139 hornady and 140 accubombs over W760, we havent seen a need to.
it shoots both bullets over 47 grs of W760 knockingon 2800 FPS IIRC. both bullets rountinely deliver .5" groups from that stubby bastage if the shooter does his part
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They are an amazing lil gun, I had one about 5 years ago and the thing shot bug holes as well. In order to measure groups the lil bugger is making me measure out to out and subtract...
Zeesh for a mere 250 bucks one sure wouldn't expect this much now would you..?
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I haven't tried the 120s on game yet, just paper & steel to date. May have to fix that this fall.
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Me thinks so...should be a heck of a yote load
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I've killed 1 deer with 120gr BT,drilled a doe at about 75yds. Shot her in the chest facing me and bullet was resting under the hide on her left back leg at about where the hip socket is. Needless to say she was DRT. When I pulled her hide down to clean her the bullet fell out and it had mushroomed perfectly. I didn't weight it but it looked like a Nosler ad.
I have killed about 5 with the 139gr Hornady....only 1 moved and she was dead just didn't know it yet. Probably made it 20yds, all shots were directly in the shoulder broadside at ranges between 25 and 100yds.
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That is awesome work by that lil bullet! I know that Steve Timm is a proponent of it big time! I've got some loaded up to try hopefully tomorrow weather permitting.
Did you find any of the Horns?
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Your comment about stubby got me thinking, so just ran upstairs to compare 139 BT Hornadys & 120 NBT. Mine are visually about the same length.
I may try to stick a 120 NBT into a mule deer and/or whitetail in addition to coyote this year. Will let you know how that goes.
In fact in order to complete further testing, I may just hunt all year with a 7-08. I sure like shooting the round a lot, but for some reason have in years past have most often grabbed something else when chasing game...
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At this time I'm fairly certain that this family as well as a young man (12) a family friend who I'm helping with his first fall of hunting will be using a 7/08 of some sort.
I hope to have a 700 Youth in a Ti take off by fall with my 3-10 Leo with M1 on top. Tween the 3 of us we'll have roughly 6 deer tags, 6-9 lope tags and 3-6 elk tags plus a couple bruin tags so we may get some bullet testing in...grin
And that's not forgetting our Breaks Borrego tag..
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I think so Greg, the pressure signs look good from what I could tell but from some QL charts I saw last night I'm not so sure if I'm not pushing things a bit...?
This gun is a fun gun and I love 788's so I couldn't pass on it. I'll also use it as a loaner a lot as I have several friends who's kids are getting into the game as well as my Grandson is and it'll be a great gun for them to begin with. I love clips for the new and young shooter.
Some time this year I'll be putting together another lil 7 for myself to work the heck out of. I have a 3-10 Leo with a M1 on top for it, I have a Ti take off handle and a youth take off barrel (20" standard contour), all I need is an action and I'll be there. Now that lil gun is really gonna shoot and will get a very thorough working out in the time to come.
Later
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Dober I think there is real merit to a short tubed 7mm-08. I'm running a Model 7 with a 20" tube and am able to get 3,030 with a max load of Varget with 120's. Looking at your speeds, with 140's, I have no doubt RL17 would probably exceed this velocity in my rig. Let us know how it turns out Dober. Oh and I thought of you last night. I had your "at least .60" at the muzzle" in my head and went to measure the diameter of my Howa shorty in 6x45 at the muzzle. It miked 0.620" with its 21" tube. I was trying to guess the weight of it. It shoots too.
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Think I'll get out to give them a go this morn, I'll check back in and report how it goes.
How much Varget are you using Greg?
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Mark,
I think I read in one of your threads that you wanted to know if anybody had in experience with the Speer 130 grain Hot Cor.
One of my old friends used that bullet for years in his Ruger M77 in 280 Remington to take literally scores of deer.
He wouldn't even consider another bullet. He used a moderate load of IMR 4831 to get maybe 3000 fps.
I think it would work great on deer and goats,but since this bullet often failed to exit on deer,it might be a trifle soft for elk.
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Dober,
Not to derail the discussion to much but how much have you used the 139g Horn out of the bigger 7's? Is it stout enough to use on mulies out of a 7mm RM? Or would the 154 be a better choice?
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