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Yeah, but is the Ham Kosher or not and besides, do you use Mayonaise oe Miracle Whip.
I vote for the 308, good bullets, and basic marksmanship.
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I wish I would have known about folks experiences with the 308 on elk years ago-before I spent all that time and money on the big magnums. I may just say 'fugg it' and sell all my other rifles and stick with my 270 and 308. ....nah, what fun would that be??
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I did not relish that gutting job. Or, did that gutting job look like relish ?
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Yeah, but do you use Mayonnaise or Miracle Whip. A lover of Miracle Whip would never entertain such a thought !!
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Tonk, you obviously (very obviously) have no experience with elk let alone the .308. How in the heck to you come up with such stupid data? Have you been reading reloading manuals and Field and Stream again? How often do you need to embarrass yourself before you shut your mouth and listen to those that actually have a little experience? You probably believe elk weigh 1,200 lbs. too. You simply amaze me with every post. Flinch
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If you take two identical hunters, one carrying a rifle with 33% more frontal area but with 10% less retained energy at 450 yards, in an area where the average shot can be from 300 to 500 yards on trophy bulls, one using monolithic bullets, and the other using a bonded bullet, a ham sandwich wrapped up in a ballistic chart tastes pretty damn good at noon. LOL.
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Not you Ray, but sometimes I just can't get the threads straight.
Many find it horrendous to shoot a WT in the azz and post their comments on unnecessary suffering, but an Elk in the timber often has a different set of standards when it comes to posting acceptable shot placement, and no one objects.
Will someone please clarify the difference.
To me front to back or back to front, it's all the same. I agree with the sentiment - both shots to be avoided. Technically there is a difference, though. The relative location of the vital organs in the bullet path and the type of matters encountered make a possible difference in terminal effect.
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The 308 is an excellent caliber for elk....with good bullets. In the last 20 yrs or so the improvement in bullets has been amazing, although the old Remington Corelokt still works fine. If you compare factory 308 velocity to 30/06 factory velocity (same bullet weight) you'll see there is very little difference, the 30/06 has to be handloaded to gain much of an edge over the 308. I've taken 27 elk, several have been with the 308 & 2 of those were with a TC Encore handgun, the bullet of choice was either a Barnes X or a Sierra 135 gr single shot pistol bullet, both were one shot kills & both elk were bulls. Shoot good bullets, hit the vitals & don't over extend the distance, seems to always work!
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Didn't read the thread, no reason to I imagine, as it will be the same-o same-o as always. I have kilt elks with a 308 and seen elks kilt with a 308. None of em ran off or had to be tracked far. For the umpteenth time. "it's is not what critters are shot with, it's where they're shot that matters most".
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I athought tule elk preffered brie and merlot? And they also preffer to be shot with copper bullets cuz lead poisons there condor buddys?
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