Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Vertical stringing or flyer advice

you may want to check that. i have notice that if i don't pay attention to how that box is placed into my stock that i will get what you just described. but if i go back and redo it and check everything then it will fit down in there without causing any pressure against the floor plate and i get a clean fit when closed and no space showing. it's to the point now if the floor plate doesn't close square to the stock i know the mag box is not in correctly.this holds true with all my ruger rifles i own. (centerfire of course)

JB, with respect to the plastic bread twisty, is it placed flat behind the recoil lug, lets say next to the forward action screw?
Or is it placed in a vertical position behind the recoil lug?
Thanks.

Not JB, but the idea is to lift the action up a little bit so as to remove contact from the barrel and forearm. The plastic tab is just a spacer to accomplish this.

Yes I get that. But I am wondering where JB wants him to put the "spacer". I am assuming on top somewhere adjacent to the forward action screw.

It would be placed on the action flat .

You want to raise the metalwork vertically in the stock..

Ok, thanks jim62, I thought that is the way it suppose to be.
JB wrote to put it "behind the recoil lug" so that was the reason for my clarification.

Well, one caveat about the recoil lug.

Some actions have pretty SHALLOW lug engagement. The Ruger is one of them. So are some of the newer Sakos etc.

Just make sure there is good contact with the existing bedding and don't go overborard with the shimming material.

Me, I don't even experiment with the floating. I just do it.

Not only do 99% of the rifle shoot better that way, as long as the action is well bedded, the floating pretty much cures any wandering POI problems down the road.

Unless the gun in question is an "Object d'Art" created to show off flawless ,skin tight inletting, a neatly floated barrel is the way to go on a hunting bolt rifle, IMHO.

I've done that with a XTR Fwt.. Improved it but still not good enough. I am playing around with some foreward pressure.
I did get a consistent two shots touching and the third 1 2/3 -2 inches away. Aussiegunwriter said that this means to seat the bullet deeper. I'll be checking that too.

Well, there are things wrong with many of the later New Haven built Model 70s that frankly, the most perfect bedding in the world cannot cure.

Been there ,done that.

They can be very frustrating rifles.

It does seem something's moving, doesn't it. All of the above bedding advise is good, and may reveal the "gremlin", but don't overlook the scope mounting system. The scope internals could be the culprit, but about the only way to find out is with another scope of known ability.
Good Luck,
Rick

By all means swap out the scopes. And check for anything loose.

Just don't do it all at once or you will not know which change made the diff.

I would swap scopes FIRST and eleminate that variable.

Then once I knew the scope issue was out, then start fiddling with the bedding.

In any case, it would be handy to have about 40 rounds of test ammo on hand.

Yes fellows, that is on the agenda. Its good to see "great minds" think alike.
Wouldn't that be a BREAK if it was the scope?