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I know, I know, here we go again. I know that many of these threads over lap and there is alot of cross over, but Im going to ask the question anyway. As a deer rifle with comprable loadings I would like to hear others opinions and field experience with these two rounds. Spicificly balistics, long range capablities and terminal preformance.
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there is only one clear difference between the 7/08 and the 308. one is .284 and the other is .308. other than that, there is no significant difference.
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Were it a Gunfight.
I'd want the other guy toting a 308...............
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For 98% of your deer hunting, there is no need to look any farther than a 7mm-08. If your deer hunting involves glassing up animals and shooting at 400+ yards, you might want something else, but not necessarily a .308. Realistically, If you're a .30 caliber guy, you will choose the .308. If you don't think that anything less than a .30 caliber bullet will bounce off of a whitetail or mule deer, you will be very happy with a 7mm-08.
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Last fall my daughter bagged her first big game. A real nice 4x mulie at about 250 yards. Nice broadside shot. Double lung and passed through. The load was 150 gr. sierra gamekings over 38 gr. of rl 15.
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here we go again.
I know that many of these threads over lap
there is alot of cross over But you ask anyway... Is this really how your parents raised you?
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308 hands down..... 7-08's are good fer ground hogs and possums but not deer 
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I have never owned a .308. I got my first 7-08 when they were still wildcats. I bought it in order to get a cartridge that was superior to the .243 and give me good accuracy. Something I could reload for. The 7-08 did it all in spades. I've now own several and everyone of them has been accurate from the beginning. From what I read, the .308 will do the same thing. I don't know.
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How about we start all over again and re-name it the .243-o8? Sounds a little weaker that way.
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Not a joke, meant to be serious:
Think of each cartridge as a doughnut. One has a bigger hole, the other a lightly smaller hole. They are both going to taste the same. Just pick the doughnut that looks best to you.
Your markmanship or riflemanship, and bullet chosen is much more important than comparing either of the two cartridges you mentioned.
Here is a ballpark I pulled off a web. Out of courtesy to Rick B. (campfire owner), not mentioning where it came from. If you search the 24 Hr. campfire archives you can undoubtedly get some comparison there also.
Compare 7mm-08 handloads to Factory Loads
Cartridge MV-FPS 300 YD(200 Zero) 400 YD(200 Zero) 400 YD Energy
7mm-08 Handload 120 GR BT 3100 -6.4 -18.8 1300
7mm-08 Handload 130 GR BT 3040 -6.7 -19.6 1350
7mm-08 Handload 140 GR BT 2950 -6.8 -19.8 1510
7mm-08 Handload 145 GR BT 2900 -7.1 -20.4 1540
7mm-08 Handload 160 GR BT 2700 -8.1 -23.2 1546
25-06Rem Rem PSPCL 120GR 2990 -7.5 -22 1100
264 MAG Rem PSPCL 140GR 3030 -7.2 -20.8 1389
270 WIN Rem BP 130 GR 3060 -7.1 -20.6 1285
270 WIN Rem BT 140 GR 2960 -7.2 -20.7 1465
270 WIN Rem SPCL 150 GR 2850 -9.7 -29.2 872
7mm MAG Rem PSPCL 150 GR 3110 -7.0 -20.5 1448
7mm MAG Rem BT 165 GR 2900 -7.5 -21.4 1689
30-06 SPR Rem BP 150 GR 2910 -8.0 -23.3 1298
30-06 SPR Rem BT 165 GR 2800 -8.2 -23.6 1500
300 MAG REM PSPCL 180G 2960 -7.3 -20.9 1859
338 MAG REM PSP 225G 2785 -9.1 -26.7 1633
And, 400 yds. is a long shot on a game animal. The 500+ yard stuff is for seriously, studious, very practiced riflemen.
If it is specifically ballistics your are after, suggest picking up a Win. or Rem. ammunition catalog, or download from the online search. One caveat there: those published velocities may or may not be on the money. But you can get a ballistic comparison.
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You shoulda stayed with the humor..............
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Yep, most of these a waste of time.........mine,  !
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With "data" like that..............
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The 308 is better . . . . Team Savage Takes National Title, Breaks 1,000-yard Record Link: http://www.savagearms.com/news/article/?id=2K5nTzegQThis list of long-range events Team Savage has won recently is getting almost as long as the distances they shoot at. They recently added the 2010 F T/R National Championship to that list by taking the team competition in grand fashion. The won both the 600 and 1,000 yard events, establishing an new 1,000-yard record of 778-21X. Darrell Buell of Damascus, OR; John Weil of Welches, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR made the trip to Sacramento, CA to represent Savage Arms. The competition featured some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the Country. But, once again, those expensive custom guns were no match for four skilled marksmen armed with stock Savage Model 12 rifles. "We continue to be thrilled with the winning results from Team Savage. It says a lot about them and it says a lot about the rifles," Savage VP of Sales & Marketing Brian Herrick said. "We're not trying to tell anybody that they can just buy a Savage and shoot like Darrell, John, Monte and Stan, but it should be fairly obvious by now that shooting stock Savage rifles isn't holding these guys back at all."
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I know, I know, here we go again. I know that many of these threads over lap and there is alot of cross over, but Im going to ask the question anyway. As a deer rifle with comprable loadings I would like to hear others opinions and field experience with these two rounds. Spicificly balistics, long range capablities and terminal preformance.
Thanks Dude, your just stirring the pot...both are better...depending...
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The 308 is better . . . . Team Savage Takes National Title, Breaks 1,000-yard Record Link: http://www.savagearms.com/news/article/?id=2K5nTzegQThis list of long-range events Team Savage has won recently is getting almost as long as the distances they shoot at. They recently added the 2010 F T/R National Championship to that list by taking the team competition in grand fashion. The won both the 600 and 1,000 yard events, establishing an new 1,000-yard record of 778-21X. Darrell Buell of Damascus, OR; John Weil of Welches, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR made the trip to Sacramento, CA to represent Savage Arms. The competition featured some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the Country. But, once again, those expensive custom guns were no match for four skilled marksmen armed with stock Savage Model 12 rifles. "We continue to be thrilled with the winning results from Team Savage. It says a lot about them and it says a lot about the rifles," Savage VP of Sales & Marketing Brian Herrick said. "We're not trying to tell anybody that they can just buy a Savage and shoot like Darrell, John, Monte and Stan, but it should be fairly obvious by now that shooting stock Savage rifles isn't holding these guys back at all." Admittedly the 308 is a GREAT choice...(when ONLY 308's are in the race)..........
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I've 308's that are good as 308's get and of course 7-08's built of a like blueprint.
The 308's is at it's "best",when things are Sanctioned so that only it can be used.
Fairly telling,in and of itself.............
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