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the patriots WERE traitors to the Crown...although they always tried to argue that their beef was with George III's ministers and not his royal Personage.

not much way to paper around that.

but the "revolution" boys need to unwad their panties, take a deep breath, and stop acting like hysterical democrat women in 2000.

yes, we lost an election and have a horrible president and a bolshie Congress. but, dudes, they were legally elected and they ARE the president and the Congress.

you don't like that?....and I certainly don't....you vote them out, just as the Constitution contemplates will happen. that's how we do things in America.

and stop mistaking a political dispute with a pack of leftie nit wits for a casus belli. it undermines the integrity of the right wing political opposition when people start blathering about coups....as well it should....and frightens away those very voters you need to make sure nothing like this happens again.

now, if on the other hand, you simply don't believe in majority rule in a constitutional republic, and think you should just have it your way because you're right.....well, that's a fascist coup d'etat, not a constitutional remedy. some folks don't seem to grasp the distinction.

those who lightly chatter about revolution should google up some images of real ones....or just try Lebanon on for size.

being mad at the representatives the people have elected, of whatever party, is not a legitimate reason to make war on the US either.


"I'm pissed at the world" does not equal grounds for starting a war....unless one is a sociopath. Not implying that those who throw the idea around are sociopaths, of course.


I don't know what station you think I live in but I pay taxes (a roaring [bleep] of them) and go to Walmart and pay school tuition just like everybody else.....and I too am royally pissed at the way the government has been run.

being mad at the representatives the people have elected, of whatever party, is not a legitimate reason to make war on the US either.


"I'm pissed at the world" does not equal grounds for starting a war....unless one is a sociopath. Not implying that those who throw the idea around are sociopaths, of course.


I don't know what station you think I live in but I pay taxes (a roaring [bleep] of them) and go to Walmart and pay school tuition just like everybody else.....and I too am royally pissed at the way the government has been run.

Suppose they won't let themselves be removed, it will THEN be time to fight for Freedom my friend...............

Midterms?

lolol,..this is what's frustrating to me.

People can't get over the idea that the country is experiencing nothing that can't be fixed by a little politics here and there.

The country is on the verge of monetary collapse and the powers which be can come up with nothing better than to continue printing more and more fiat money to paper over the problem.

Politics ain't gonna fix this.

the idea of soldiers conspiring at revolution is just as disturbing as the idiot socialist in the White House....and just as illegal.


time to get a grip, guys.....yes, Obama is awful, the damage he has done will take decades to repair. But the problem is that he was elected by a substantial majority of the voters, as were the communist democrats in Congress who have permitted him to do what he has done. the fact that the other side won an election and is doing stuff we hate is a good reason to get out there and make sure they get thrown out at the first opportunity.

we still have elections and we still have courts.....when those are interfered with, then it's time to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.

and yes, I hear talk from my friends in uniform that would be violations of article 134....it's a measure of the righteous anger that will throw these villains out in due course and in accord with the law.

you don't like that?....and I certainly don't....you vote them out ...

Look here,...

http://www.emii.com/Articles/265492...Deficit-Forecast-For-2011-To-Top-1T.aspx

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has raised its forecast for the U.S. budget deficit for the 2011 fiscal year from its previous estimate, and now projects the figure will be in excess of $1 trillion.

You know what that means?

It means that the federal government can only continue by running up an enormous debt which is passed on to the people.

The government can-not continue to operate on debt without crashing our currency,...and if it shuts down the deficit spending, it's going to have to shut down virtually everything it does.

No more social security,...no more medicare/medicaid,...no more unemployment benefits,..no more food stamps.

It's the proverbial rock and a hard place,..because no government offcial wants to be the one who turns off the money spigot,...even though *all* of them *must* know that its got to be done.

Consequently,...as I've said all along,..it's all going to have to boil completely down before most people develop any *real* understanding of just how dire the situation is.

Once the government starts running a trillion dollar annual deficit, it's *way* too late to tweak things back into anything remotely resembling normalcy.

... which is whether the time has really come for patriots to revolt against the US governement.

now you sound like a commie, VA....what's your point? I would think somebody who pays hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes would have a somewhat larger grievance with big government than....say .....those receiving the earned income tax credit, food stamps or welfare

or the other 50 percent of our citizenry who pay no income tax.

just exactly how do you figure the high earners who pay the vast majority of the taxes are somehow in a different boat.....particularly vis a vis the topic here, which is whether the time has really come for patriots to revolt against the US governement.

We still have elections/courts, but Steve they have already been interfered with; i.e. Franken stealing the Minnesota election and the Black Panthers intimidating voters with the backing of Holder/Hussien are just the first two that come to mind. The majority of us here at the campfire could compile quite a list of offenses against the constitution from this (choke)president and congress. A book just came out enumerating many. Many of the colonists felt good ole king George wasn't "that" bad and that they should be loyal subjects. Fortunately back then there were those that had the feeling "give me liberty or....."; thank the Almighty!! More and more feeling that way every day and with undeniable justification.

Here's my plan.

Stress to my kids that they need to learn career skills which will make them welcome in other countries.

This one is going to be eaten from within and without.

RIGHT ON! RIGHT ON! DITTOS! I tell kids the same thing. This country is over we just don't know it yet.

Treason is pretty serious business to discuss.