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I don't know much about HSUS. Is HSUS the "bad" humane society? I think there is a similar-sounding one thats not "so bad." Anyway, I again think the Wisconsin DNR is getting more blame than it deserves. Yes they are the 'bad' humane society. Not the one where you get cute little pet that has been spayed or nutered. It's similar to PETA in that it wants to stop hunting/fishing and most all outdoor rec activities. Just to add to this, the director of HSUS is Wayne Pacelle, former director of PETA. People need to know this. Anyone who calls himself a hunter, or professes to care about the future of hunting, should know this.
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Now how did old Wayne get is frigging job I ask??? All those PETA people need to be shipped off to an island so they can do their bidding with no one to interfer.
Wolfs, now who in the Glory Bee needs wolfs in their area and just what good do they really accomplish for the animal world and mankind? I think every big city zoo should have at least 1 pair.
In my state of Missouri, the "conservation people" turned loose some 1,200 rattle snakes for hunters and their kids to deal with while hunting the hardwoods. Yep, there is nothing like going fall hunting with a bow and your 12 year old gets bit by a Timber Rattle Snake or some other species of rattler. I hope the heads of our state conservation commission go hunting and get bit by one of these nice little creatures during the hunting season.
Now there is a bunch of pictures on the internet, of a young boy who got bitten by a rattler while sitting and taking a back with his friends from hiking. This young person suffered emense pain and over a dozen operations on his arm and hand. I hate to think of what the medical costs would total.
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There are lots of places that are sanitized for folks like you Tonk. Try Central Park, Manhattan, NY. Should be just about your speed.
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In my state of Missouri, the "conservation people" turned loose some 1,200 rattle snakes for hunters and their kids to deal with while hunting the hardwoods. "Released"......as in "Planted"? Or......"Caught and Released".....as in the Timber Rattlesnake and Massasauga studies?
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Any way you slice it wolves are not welcome in the woods by anyone or anything that spends any real time in the woods. I wonder why that is? Maybe we should release them on the grounds of every state capitol that thinks they are so wonderful and see how long that opinion lasts. Maybe we would get lucky and they would reduce the uneducated liberal vote by a sizable margin.
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Any way you slice it wolves are not welcome in the woods by anyone or anything that spends any real time in the woods. That's a pretty broad brush............and the statement is not true.
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Any way you slice it wolves are not welcome in the woods by anyone or anything that spends any real time in the woods. That's a pretty broad brush............and the statement is not true. It ain't even close to true. Speaking for myself and many people I grew up with, we all enjoyed wolves in the woods. Made our "woods" (Superior National Forest) just a lot more interesting and wilder than everyone else's. Spent almost 20 yrs out in the deep timber and never had a problem. Nor did my dogs. The people that make those sorts of statements find new things scary and probably ought not be in the woods in general.
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Speaking for myself and many people I grew up with, we all enjoyed wolves in the woods. Made our "woods" (Superior National Forest) just a lot more interesting and wilder than everyone else's. Spent almost 20 yrs out in the deep timber and never had a problem. Nor did my dogs.
What was the population (best guess) of wolves in MN way back then? 300? ha ha what a joke. Did anyone have a problem with wolves then? They were hunted and trapped to low levels.
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In my area, we had quite a few packs. If you have a pack you have a pack. So, the population in the state was irrelvant. There are just as many wolves there then as there are today.
No, they were not trapped or hunted to low levels. They were protected. Even then.
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Wolves may be "interesting" or whatever but the fact is they limit and decrease our hunting opportunities. This is a fact!!
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Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. - Henry David Thoreau
The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back. - Robert Ruark
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There have been no less than three attempts to delist the Great Lakes wolves. These petitions come from the USFWS. They have been rejected in court for various reasons......mostly for management plans that are questionable about continued viability of wolf populations after delisting. Much of it having to do with populations being so limited that they couldn't prevent inbreeding and subsequently couldn't sustain populations.
The most recent delisting to be revoked was for the failure of the USFWS to provide adequate public input. That's a real technicality....which they admit to. They also state that the Great Lakes populations are at levels which satisfy (and exceed as much as threefold) the recovery efforts of the involved states.
Feds are picking up the banner again with a new and improved delisting move. http://vocuspr.vocus.com/vocuspr30/...1752&XSL=PressRelease&Cache=True
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In my area, we had quite a few packs. If you have a pack you have a pack. So, the population in the state was irrelvant. There are just as many wolves there then as there are today.
No, they were not trapped or hunted to low levels. They were protected. Even then. The MN wolf pop was estimated at about 700 at its lowest levels. They were always established where Brent lived.
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I like to call it as it is once in a while. So, was that you I saw at the Grand Marais IGA I think on a friday before Fisherman's Picknic...or was it the Dragon Boat festival...no...Picknic I think....with two little kids? I shoulda stopped and asked.
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No I haven't been to GM for .... better than 5 years anyways. It's been a while.
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Wolf Population Expansion in Minnesota William Berg and Todd Fuller Minnesota Department of Natural Resources Populations and federal status updated by IWC December Through the early 1960s, wolf numbers were likely stable (see Minnesota Wolf Population Trend graph below). From 1953 to 1965, about 190 wolves were bountied annually, and bounty claims gradually decreased outside the main range -- suggesting that fewer wolves existed. One estimate in 1963 put Minnesota's wolf population at 350-700. After the bounty ended in 1965, wolves could still be legally trapped and hunted year-round in Minnesota. Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (MN DNR) records indicate that about 250 wolves were killed annually until 1974, when wolves became completely protected under the federal Endangered Species Act of 1973.
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Wolves Kill Five Dogs In Ashland And Bayfield CountiesDNR seeks state management of species, sets up online alert system ARTICLE | AUGUST 10, 2010 - 7:17PM | BY CLAUDIA BROMAN Gray wolves killed 12 dogs and injured seven others across the state since the beginning of 2010, according to Bob Manwell, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Department of Resources. Eight of the incidents involved trailing hounds, and five of the incidents occurred in Ashland and Bayfield counties. http://ashlandcurrent.com/article/10/08/10/wolves-kill-five-dogs-ashland-and-bayfield-counties
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Wolves Kill Five Dogs In Ashland And Bayfield CountiesDNR seeks state management of species, sets up online alert system ARTICLE | AUGUST 10, 2010 - 7:17PM | BY CLAUDIA BROMAN Gray wolves killed 12 dogs and injured seven others across the state since the beginning of 2010, according to Bob Manwell, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Department of Resources. Eight of the incidents involved trailing hounds, and five of the incidents occurred in Ashland and Bayfield counties. http://ashlandcurrent.com/article/10/08/10/wolves-kill-five-dogs-ashland-and-bayfield-counties Wonder how many dogs got hit by cars in 2010? ...................but hey that ain't news.
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Seems to me the wolves were SUPPOSE to reduce the elk population. That was one of the main reasons for the introduction in the first place.............too many elk.
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