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That's a fact. They don't cut corners about what they think.

I don't disagree. The ONLY potentially particle is that the public employee unions hate him, and he hates them. Since the prison guards, peace officers, and firefighters have pretty much put California into its current situation, and since he won't be running for anything else, he might stand up to them. Whitman wouldn't... which led to the "whore" commentary.

I'm more concerned about Proposition 25, which they snuck through as "the Legislature doesn't get paid if it doesn't get a budget in on time" law, when the main point was to change the budget requirement from 2/3 to majority. California's governor is largely a figurehead in our system; that change will hurt.

Flyfast,

You and Salmonella need to move out of there.

We are voting California out of the Union next month and giving it to France.

25 allows a majority on the budget, taxes still require a 2/3s. Additionally we shot down 24 which would have raised business taxes. On the innitiative side it's clear the voters do not want new taxes. The other bright spot is 26 passing (Extends the 2/3rds requirement for taxes to fees which currently only require a majority vote. Eliminates tax swaps and other hidden tax gimmicks the Legislature has used to balance budgets in the past.)

I think no on 24 and yes on 25 and 26 together will be a good thing in the long term. While the Dems only need a majority for the budget, they will also no longer have the right to blame. I think they are going to have to concede on many issues because the results of their agenda is going to backfire so hard. Much like Obamas agenda, they had the control they needed, but it all backfired. I think this will be Sacto in two years.

Finally lay in a redistricting commission and you could have a some significant changes in the future.

While the office votes may have sucked, I think the initiatives did quite well.

Hurry, before Mexico gets it first.

Yep lotta truth there. For those that whine on about their screwed up Kalifornia, many folks over the years have urged them to get out. But they give their rationales, whatever , for staying there. So, what's it going to take? I've stopped feeling bad for you. Ya know you can't have it both ways.

Give em another 25 years and they will have the whole country.



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My family's been here since this was Spain. We've farmed the same ranch for nearly 100 years. I can fish on the ocean in the morning, and shoot a hog in the afternoon. Snow is something I drive to for skiing. I have world class fishing, hiking, backpacking, scuba diving.... I can take the kids to the beach one day, and be in the mountains that evening. Where I live, the crime rate is non-existent, the public schools are in the top 5% in the state, and thanks to Prop 13, my property taxes are pretty damn low.

Sure, lots of the people are liberal, and way too earnest, but they're nice.

If we can only continue on our economic path, 70% of them will move out....

I'm pretty skeptical of 25... we'll see. But our salvation, and making this state governable, is in the hands of that commission. I'm glad to see it extended to Congress. Now, if they'll just get going.

I thin 25 in conjunction with 26 makes it work. If 26 failed I think it would be much worse.



Can I come over?

I've argued very similar points for years here at the fire.
I've had a great life IN SPITE OF WHERE I LIVE instead of BECAUSE OF WHERE I LIVE.

Given a choice, I'd remain where I am if the alternative were a red state where I had to live in an urban environment or a paved subdivision.
Crowded conditions ruin me.

I've made lemonade of this lemon, but it gets tougher each day.


There still be some good places here.
I believe we are exceptions to the rule however.

they just vote "D" down the list, what is also troubling is the Atty Gen race which is now showing Kamala D. Harris (D) over Cooley by %0.02

Kamila Harris can be noted for
""In July 2008, a young woman was robbed and violently injured in San Francisco's wealthy Pacific Heights neighborhood by an illegal immigrant named Alexander Izaguirre. Before the incident, Izaguirre had pleaded guilty to selling cocaine in the city's Tenderloin neighborhood and was involved in previous purse-snatching crimes, but avoided jail due to his enrollment in a program called Back on Track, which is run by District Attorney Kamala Harris and provided training for jobs that Izaguirre could not legally hold""

""officer Espinoza who was gunned down in cold blood by a known gang banger and after pressure from the POA she refused to go for the death penalty.
Or the illegal who is a known ms13 member that killed a father and 2 of his 3 sons while waiting at a stop light for no reason.
""

""Not to mention Edwin Ramos, another known illegal (who was in the SYSTEM), that wound up gunning down and killing 3 members of the Bologna family; the father and 2 of the sons.

Only to be subjected to the 'catch and release' plan of the sanctuary city that is SF.""

""
In July 2008, a criminal gang member from MS 13 and illegal immigrant Edwin Ramos allegedly murdered Anthony Bologna and his two sons, Michael and Matthew, in broad daylight during a traffic altercation in San Francisco. Ramos had been previously convicted of two felonies (including a gang-related assault of a young man aboard a bus and the attempted robbery of a pregnant woman) in 2004, at the age of 17 years, but was not reported to federal immigration authorities, and therefore not deported, due to San Francisco's sanctuary city policy.[18][19] The city rejected any claims of liability and family members of the victims have filed a lawsuit as a result.

On July 31, 2008, 14-year-old Ivan Miranda was murdered and nearly decapitated in a sword attack in San Francisco's Excelsior neighborhood. Authorities arrested Rony Aguilera, known as "Guerrillero," in the attack and believe Aguilera is an illegal immigrant from Honduras. Aguilera had been arrested in 2007 in an assault case, but was never reported to federal immigration officials due to San Francisco's sanctuary policy.

In March 2008, Jamiel Shaw Jr., a high school athlete, was murdered in Los Angeles by Pedro Espinoza, an illegal immigrant gang member from MS 13, as he was walking home. It is believed that Espinoza mistook Shaw Jr. for a rival gang member. According to Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton, police did not check Espinoza's immigration status after a recent arrest for alleged assault, and Espinoza had been released from police custody a day before the murder. As a result of Jamiel Shaw Jr.'s death, a new ordinance was proposed by family members that would allow police in the area to arrest suspected illegal immigrant gang members. In May 2009, members of the Shaw family filed a lawsuit against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. ""

The list is almost endless. It just makes me sick

I've that I'm certain, just as I'm certain there are more and more places that we are the exceptions.

Well in honesty if we turned off the media and decided to bury our heads in the sand we would probably be just happy.

We make our own choices and I could give a flying [bleep] who thinks I should stay or thinks I should leave. If family keeps me in CA or your wife and property keep you here, Samonella, that does not mean we forfeit the right to bitch about the liberals who are ruining the state. Many of these liberals came here, now many head to other states, I hear plenty of bitching about the "Californification of other states. I like everyting thing about this state except the facist liberals. Right now the thought of giving in and running pisses me off more than staying.

Look, they can't win in the long run, we will not be able to sustain their policies, now we have a House that will not allow a bailout of CA...let it burn!

Hows that Koster/larsen vote going?

Hell I had that bumper sticker when His FATHER was running for re-election in the 60's Christ this place never changes. Well, C'ept back then we has MORE Mule deer. Bear

If the 70% that are freeloaders, as someone mentioned, leave when the crap really hits the fan, you loyal Califorians will be left with a HUGE bill....hope you got a really big piggybank stashed somewhere.
I hope you don't expect the rest of America to bail your sorry state out....

Seattle screws up Washington...
Potland Screws up the rest of Oregon..

I feel your pain...

I give you credit- you always seem to have a positive attitude even given the political conditions, and make the best out of it. I've enjoyed the pictures you've shared here of what CA has done for you and your family in the great outdoors, and I think if I had that here in Illinausea, I'd be inclined to stay here as well.