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There are new rules for the game in 2012 and Sarah Palin has already got them figured out. If she is the point guard-she wins.

First off-about the 2012 electoral votes-the coming redistricting will be a big factor and the Tea Party will have their way with it.
With less gerrymandered districts, quite a few of the Republicans who narrowly lost in November are looking good for 2012.

Winning Ohio was big. Illinois, New Mexico, Virginia, Wisconsin�no longer Obama country.
Obama states like California�New York�are also losing population and electoral votes.
Things are looking good for 2012.

Wait-it gets even better�almost everyone that will vote in the 2012 GOP primaries will be making their judgments about the contenders based on what they seeing on FOX news.
According to Dick Morris�in 2010-50% of Republican voters-41% of Independents-21% of Democrats watched FOX news/opinion shows at least 3 times a week.

The folks in the first caucus in Iowa and the first primary in New Hampshire who will narrow the GOP field down to just 2 or 3 contenders are the same folks watching Fox news.
Along with the rest of us they will see and judge all the candidates vetted on Fox News.

More than ever before-we will get a better look at the whole bunch-learn their core values-their vision for the country-how they handle themselves under pressure and answer questions.
We will all-not just the first two small states-pick the GOP winners by how they do on the FOX prime time news/opinion shows.

Of course, Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin have a head start as they have been working for FOX and will have to resign when they throw their hats into the ring.
And Gomer Pyle already thinks Sarah may well run away with the nomination.
Mike is smarter than he looks.

That leaves the rest of the field-many of which are RINOs.
Tea Party don�t need no stinkin� RINOs.
And NOBODY gets the GOP nomination without the Tea Party.

That leaves the non RINOs-mostly younger-newer faces that will be coming on strong and making a big impact-but maybe not in the next few months before the field of contenders is set�

That leaves one more problem-all those negatives-all that baggage that they all carry.
Whomever gets the top spot will have everything including the kitchen sink tossed at them by we-all-know-who.

But wait-when they reach back to grab the sink to toss at Palin-it ain�t there!
Already been tossed and it bounced off.
And Obama people ain�t saying much about �quitters� in Alaska or the US Senate.
They be letting the far Right do that for them.

As for the inevitable new incoming crap-Sarah has got that part figured out too-in these next two years-let the folks see for themselves who you really are.
Just like her Hero and Mentor did-Ron Reagan.

This is where Palin is already pulling ahead with some of the other New Rules.

She knows that a lot of voters don�t watch Fox or any other news/opinion programs.
They watch Dancing with the Stars and TLC reality shows.

Mitt needs to get his �Romney�s Estates� TV series going real soon.
Huckabee needs to get his band back together and on the late night shows.
They have some catching up to do with Prime Time Palin.

And there is a another whole set of New Rules about things called Twitter and Facebook and other stuff I don�t understand but Sarah does�her traffic beats all the others combined.

Twitter: Romney has over 21,000 and Palin has over 300,000 followers.
Facebook: Romney has 750,000 and Palin has 2,500,000 fans.

Don�t forget the book sales-the 2.5 million top best seller of 2009 and her new book which isn�t supposed to do as well as the first book-but it is�

All those stories about the 5-6 hours drives and the 8-12 hour waiting in line for Sarah book signing�don�t remember any stories about the Romney book tour or even Bush like these:

�Terri Batts said she met Palin after her son, who had been stationed in Alaska, Palin, who was governor of Alaska at the time, attended the memorial services.
�I just want to come see her again,� Batts said.
Click-other 500 votes.

And at Dillons in Andover, Kansas-five year Sarah Kester was first in line; thanks to her grandmother who couldn�t say no and held the spot all night.
When Sarah sat down to start signing books and hear the story-she simply took off one of her bracelets and gave it to little Sarah. Invited her to go fishing.
Click-other 1000 votes.

And you betcha your life this stuff is important-you can have the best ideas in the world, but if the vast middle of the road voters don�t take a liking to ya�ask old whatshisname-Ron Paul.
Ask the ghost of Ron Reagan how well it can work�

As for the other stuff that the rest of us think is the important stuff�the Palin Position Papers are starting to flow and under these new rules, they are getting the media coverage, good and bad, that the rest of the field would kill for.

ObamaCare-check
Mid East Wars-check
Border Wars-check
Stimulus bills and Bailouts-check
Qualitative Easing-check
Budgets and reducing general fund spending-check-check
Energy policy and oil spills-check-check-check�

No doubt that all this and more will be bundled and ready as �Palin�s Roadmap to the Contract with American Solutions� Gravitas Package that Sarah will bring to the table when she jumps into the fray.

And there is this little thing about Obama losing his left wing base-dropping in the polls like a rock-even the late night shows poking� him with a stick�

Maybe we will see his new TV show-�Obama�s Chicagoland�
When the left loons run �Jerry Brown�s Moonbeamland� at him in the Dems primaries.

Using the Gallup numbers originally posted by Flyfast to look at the popular vote:
40% conservative
35% moderate
20% liberal
5% �don�t have a clue�

If Obama pulls a Clinton and moves center and the Tea Party wins a few fights in 2011/12 and staves off disaster-I see:
40% conservative for Palin
15/20% split moderates for Palin AND her Tea Party
Judging by the last election that should be maybe 5/30% split.
40+20=60% or more for Palin and Obama loses 5-10% of his pissed off liberal base and some of the undecided that will vote for Jerry Brown or some other leftwing nut.

If Obama hunkers down on the left and Everything goes south:
30% moderate for Palin. Obama gets the other 5% and keeps the 20% liberal and 5% undecided.
70% Palin 30% Obama.

If Obama is benched and they sign Hillary-I see about the same percentages.
She has her baggage too.

Goodbye President Obama�Hullo President Palin!


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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."












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I hope so...


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I hope so...


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Change!

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Sarah won't run.....doesn't like the pay cut!

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this bumb obahma should be Inpeach for not proteching our borders

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Well the left just keep turning up the hate talk on Palin. They fear her more than death.


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I really like Sarah Palin.

But I would campaign HARD against her.

It would have been different if she had been able to complete two relatively undisturbed terms.

REAGAN needed to serve as President of the Screen Actors Guild and as Governor of California in order to become a strong, wise, seasoned leader.

Palin could have done so if McCain and the MSM had left her to mature and gain experience.

Obama is crappy at being President. A lot of this is due to his complete lack of tough day to day executive politics.

The fact that he is a socialist at heart hurts him. But it is not the source of his failure. He is completely unprepared for the job.

Clinton --though I despise him -- was pretty good at being President. He got stuff done.

Carter, Johnson, and Obama simply suck at being in charge.

Reagan and Bush 43 were good at being in charge.

Palin--unproven with less than 2 years in the statehouse.

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BMT, who's your choice? Tim

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The only thought that I have after reading such a loony tune diatribe, is that somebody is Cuckoo for CoCo Puffs...

The term "President Palin" is a scary thing, for criss sakes, you seen how she operates a rifle....some people need to lay off the kool-aid and take a dose of reality, Sarah Palin is not of character or intelligence to lead a country, let alone a hockey-mom bake sale, plain and simple.

She's nice to look at though, I'll give you fruit loops that!!!



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No matter what this jackass said.... I like this quote better... Isn't it time for a purge around here?


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Originally Posted by BMT
I really like Sarah Palin.

But I would campaign HARD against her.

It would have been different if she had been able to complete two relatively undisturbed terms.

REAGAN needed to serve as President of the Screen Actors Guild and as Governor of California in order to become a strong, wise, seasoned leader.

Palin could have done so if McCain and the MSM had left her to mature and gain experience.

Obama is crappy at being President. A lot of this is due to his complete lack of tough day to day executive politics.

The fact that he is a socialist at heart hurts him. But it is not the source of his failure. He is completely unprepared for the job.

Clinton --though I despise him -- was pretty good at being President. He got stuff done.

Carter, Johnson, and Obama simply suck at being in charge.

Reagan and Bush 43 were good at being in charge.

Palin--unproven with less than 2 years in the statehouse.

BMT


Don't worry BMT, the GOP will trot out some Clinton or Bush look-a-like in a blue suit and red tie that is capable of mouthing every "God and Country" platitude that one could imagine and people like you will gush all over him.

The end result will be a continuance of the status quo in Washington (big government and big taxes), but you'll love every minute of it because you'll have your Presidential "manikin" with an R after his name on TV all the time telling you to be patient because good times are a coming.

It's funny how people claim they want "change" and when a dynamic, individual like Sarah Palin with new and refreshing ideas comes along they curl up in a fetal position and cry for the same old Ivy League trained, "fiscally conservative/socially liberal" males that have dominated the Republican Party for decades.

There are no "qualifications" that guarantee that one will be a successful President.......you just have to look at the previous (and curent) occupant(s) of the White House to see that.

But when I read all the unsubstantiated criticism of Sarah Palin on this forum, I can't help but think that if she was a MALE.......everything would be different.

Suddenly all the talk of her being "unqualified" would disappear and a "Sam" Palin would now become the savior of the Republican Party.

Think about it..........

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Main problem with the OP is the writer assumes little o will be running.

Already had very serious doubts about that but am doubting more and more each day. He's toast. He'll bow out without a word. They'll probably be running the Hillbillary twins.

Whether or not Palin runs is still very much uncertain. I'm hoping she does -- for many reasons. One, it'll comical to see how many from the GOP cheer leading squad who so dearly love and adore that same-old, same-old that Nemisis mentions will have to hold their nose while pulling the lever.

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I like Sarah. I don't think she can win. I'll vote for her if she makes it past the primary.


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Originally Posted by nemesis
Originally Posted by BMT
I really like Sarah Palin.

But I would campaign HARD against her.

It would have been different if she had been able to complete two relatively undisturbed terms.

REAGAN needed to serve as President of the Screen Actors Guild and as Governor of California in order to become a strong, wise, seasoned leader.

Palin could have done so if McCain and the MSM had left her to mature and gain experience.

Obama is crappy at being President. A lot of this is due to his complete lack of tough day to day executive politics.

The fact that he is a socialist at heart hurts him. But it is not the source of his failure. He is completely unprepared for the job.

Clinton --though I despise him -- was pretty good at being President. He got stuff done.

Carter, Johnson, and Obama simply suck at being in charge.

Reagan and Bush 43 were good at being in charge.

Palin--unproven with less than 2 years in the statehouse.

BMT


Don't worry BMT, the GOP will trot out some Clinton or Bush look-a-like in a blue suit and red tie that is capable of mouthing every "God and Country" platitude that one could imagine and people like you will gush all over him.

The end result will be a continuance of the status quo in Washington (big government and big taxes), but you'll love every minute of it because you'll have your Presidential "manikin" with an R after his name on TV all the time telling you to be patient because good times are a coming.

It's funny how people claim they want "change" and when a dynamic, individual like Sarah Palin with new and refreshing ideas comes along they curl up in a fetal position and cry for the same old Ivy League trained, "fiscally conservative/socially liberal" males that have dominated the Republican Party for decades.

There are no "qualifications" that guarantee that one will be a successful President.......you just have to look at the previous (and curent) occupant(s) of the White House to see that.

But when I read all the unsubstantiated criticism of Sarah Palin on this forum, I can't help but think that if she was a MALE.......everything would be different.

Suddenly all the talk of her being "unqualified" would disappear and a "Sam" Palin would now become the savior of the Republican Party.

Think about it..........
You said it better than I..

Funny how so many thought the Liar In Chief was eminently qualified when he spent a total of 115 days in the senate and was a (ooooo!) 'community organizer' - yet a former Governor just can't do it...

I'm sick to death of the old-guard political runners. I will not vote for Huckabee, Romney et al.. At least Palin seems to have some real common sense for a change.. Would I vote for her? Depends on who finally runs and whether I think they can rein in this out-of-contral regime in DC..

The lefties hate Palin because they fear her more than any other potential runner.. Seeing terrified libs is wonderful. laugh laugh


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Palin is scary! Plain and simple.
If she gets the GOP nod, Obama or whoever the dems put up will win. As much as a lot of you like or love her, she can't win. She's not strong enough or popular enough to beat Obama.

The GOP needs a strong leader, that has made wise decisions and hadserved more than what Palin has. Look has what inexperience (Obama) has done to this Country and we want more of that?

Sorry guys, I like Palin, but she is no POTUS she's just another politician like most no names that can't win the nod or beat some other inexperienced loser.


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Palin is scary? Compared to what? Anybody with eyes wide open the past 2 years has witnessed the most flagrant assault of the Constitution in years. And Palin is scary? And what someone judges a potential presidential candidate by whether she got a carabou with the first shot? A possibly priceless analogy of getting a rifle with a bum scope alighnment, to being duped into MCCain's "hoe" votegetter, she prolly learned a big lesson on who to trust with what. She's geting savy. she learns fast. Would make a good president.

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Originally Posted by Archerhunter
Main problem with the OP is the writer assumes little o will be running.

Already had very serious doubts about that but am doubting more and more each day. He's toast. He'll bow out without a word. They'll probably be running the Hillbillary twins.

Whether or not Palin runs is still very much uncertain. I'm hoping she does -- for many reasons. One, it'll comical to see how many from the GOP cheer leading squad who so dearly love and adore that same-old, same-old that Nemisis mentions will have to hold their nose while pulling the lever.

hehe.





Like I said�

If Obama is benched and they sign Hillary-I see about the same percentages.
She has her baggage too.

And the reason I said it�

What HAS Old Billy Boy been up to and with whom has he been up to it with-since he left the White House and Hillary started taking all those long overseas trips?

And who has been sitting on all these juicy stories-holding them back just in case they are needed for the Democratic Primaries?

Goodbye President Obama�Hullo President Palin!


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You could very well be right, Singer.

I reckon we'll find out wink
And I reckon it ain't gonna get any less interesting, either. 2012 is a long ways off and a lot can happen.

Plus, people don't seem to be so apt to forget as they once were. Or at least I hope not. Show the whole country how Palin flushed out and shot down the good old boy network she walked right into the middle of and they'll be far less apt to listen to the garbage slung by the media.

I think if she runs, she's got a very good chance. Depending on what happens between now and then, might even be the same kind of landslide Reagan enjoyed.
Woulnd't that be a hoot!




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In this day & age it takes stage presence & salesmanship to become POTUS...While Palin has the conservative values that made this country great, she is lacking what it takes to be elected President...YOU & I may not like it but that's the way it is...

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