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Ya'll need to chill a bit. Spanokopitas is a good dude, and he's just offering his opinion here. Yah; I'm amazed at the amount of ado about nothing. The shooter is a bad guy, sure enough, because he shot up a bunch of regular folks and killed a kid. But Giffords? Roll? It's just a politician and a judge, for Pete's sake. Why all the hoopla? Shouldn't government legislators and adjudicators expect to get shot at when they ignore the will of their subjects? Isn't that what the Second Amendment is about? I know government enforcers certainly expect to get shot at when they trample the will of the people: it's why they hide their identities, carry heavy firepower, wear vests, and ride in armored vehicles. Why should the other two branches of the State be any different? "Congratulations: the computers say you won the election. So: here is the power to tax away our income. Here's the power to regulate away our livelihoods. Here's the power to throw us in prison for doing harmless things you disapprove of. Here's the power to conscript our children and use them up in pointless foreign wars. Here's the power to send thugs to break down our doors in the middle of the night and murder us in our sleep. Here's the power to make radical foreign terrorists so angry at us that they kill us by the thousands. "Okay...got all that? Can you carry it? You okay? Great: good luck. See you on C-SPAN. "Oh--wait. One more thing. Almost forgot. Here's a bullseye to wear on your back in case we decide you're getting a bit uppity in the way you use all those powers." Sounds fair to me. You got a point.
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This was looking like NORMAL dialogue,....'til you showed up.
Later,
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You're taking him out of context. This is what he said- This is the Liberal, gunbanners dream scenario, just stand back and watch the MSM go full bore on this and expect more restrictive gun laws.
The only good thing is that this didn't happen in California. Since it happened in fairly conservative Arizona, it's doubtful that a bunch of new gun laws will be passed there. If it happened in California, they'd be going door to door to take folk's handguns. I don't think Spanokopitas meant anything more than that. Brian.
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One day we will be chatting about some of the folks who used to post here when they finally snap.
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You're taking him out of context. This is what he said- This is the Liberal, gunbanners dream scenario, just stand back and watch the MSM go full bore on this and expect more restrictive gun laws.
The only good thing is that this didn't happen in California. Since it happened in fairly conservative Arizona, it's doubtful that a bunch of new gun laws will be passed there. If it happened in California, they'd be going door to door to take folk's handguns. I don't think Spanokopitas meant anything more than that. Brian. You're a fair man.
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Point taken,....and I'm really sorry that our angst has attracted 2 of the "Trilogy",......
Cuz' NOTHING we have said up to now is as loony as what's just been posted by the Philosopher General......and it's NOT the sorta' chit I associate with, so I am History from this,....until they are gone.
I can't believe they let those two Corksockers near children, or incarcerated felons.
Hasta Luego
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Not done reading all the posts but that's the best news I've heard yet! Reported by Fox early on, but unfortunately, flatly denied by the eyewitness I heard later on. The shooter was apparently tackled and separated from his gun by a couple of men, and his weapon was unloaded by a woman.
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http://www.glock.com/english/index_magazines.htmThe news has been reporting it was a 9mm. So I take it the 33 plus 2 according to the glock website? I can see a lawsuit heading Glocks way and the direction of whoever sold him the gun 3 days ago. (CNN reporting gun was bought 3 days ago) My family headed into town this afternoon and the road was still closed. Guess its reopened now. Either way it didn't seem like a normal day in Tucson. Did notice there was less traffic out. I am just glad my in laws were not there(thank God for old age). It's just odd to think it happened in my state, my city, affected my neighbors and my community. Most never expect it in their town. I was wrong and I am asshamed because I shoulda known better. I never thought of it. This situation wakes people up. It has for my family. Sad that this world has turned out so bad. Kique My family headed into town this afternoon and the road was still closed. Guess its reopened now. Either way it didn't seem like a normal day in Tucson. Did notice there was less traffic out. I am just glad my in laws were not there(thank God for old age). It's just odd to think it happened in my state, my city, affected my neighbors and my community. Most never expect it in their town. I was wrong and I am asshamed because I shoulda known better. I never thought of it. This situation wakes people up. It has for my family. Sad that this world has turned out so bad. i think a lot of us feel that way
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Ya'll need to chill a bit. Spanokopitas is a good dude, and he's just offering his opinion here. Yah; I'm amazed at the amount of ado about nothing. The shooter is a bad guy, sure enough, because he shot up a bunch of regular folks and killed a kid. But Giffords? Roll? It's just a politician and a judge, for Pete's sake. Why all the hoopla? Shouldn't government legislators and adjudicators expect to get shot at when they ignore the will of their subjects? Isn't that what the Second Amendment is about? I know government enforcers certainly expect to get shot at when they trample the will of the people: it's why they hide their identities, carry heavy firepower, wear vests, and ride in armored vehicles. Why should the other two branches of the State be any different? "Congratulations: the computers say you won the election. So: here is the power to tax away our income. Here's the power to regulate away our livelihoods. Here's the power to throw us in prison for doing harmless things you disapprove of. Here's the power to conscript our children and use them up in pointless foreign wars. Here's the power to send thugs to break down our doors in the middle of the night and murder us in our sleep. Here's the power to make radical foreign terrorists so angry at us that they kill us by the thousands. "Okay...got all that? Can you carry it? You okay? Great: good luck. See you on C-SPAN. "Oh--wait. One more thing. Almost forgot. Here's a bullseye to wear on your back in case we decide you're getting a bit uppity in the way you use all those powers." Sounds fair to me. anothe post by one of the resident idiot svants. A man that professes to be a christian spreading the good work with loosers in prison, and can't see what he writes "just another politican and judge" And because of his dicked up prejiduce doesn't think of a woman with two kids, and a judge with a family that didn't deserve what happened to them because they were just a politician and a judge. Another graphic example of the idiots on this forum. The fact they were human beings doesnt count in barks world
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Ya'll need to chill a bit. Spanokopitas is a good dude, and he's just offering his opinion here. Yah; I'm amazed at the amount of ado about nothing. The shooter is a bad guy, sure enough, because he shot up a bunch of regular folks and killed a kid. But Giffords? Roll? It's just a politician and a judge, for Pete's sake. Why all the hoopla? Shouldn't government legislators and adjudicators expect to get shot at when they ignore the will of their subjects? Isn't that what the Second Amendment is about? I know government enforcers certainly expect to get shot at when they trample the will of the people: it's why they hide their identities, carry heavy firepower, wear vests, and ride in armored vehicles. Why should the other two branches of the State be any different? "Congratulations: the computers say you won the election. So: here is the power to tax away our income. Here's the power to regulate away our livelihoods. Here's the power to throw us in prison for doing harmless things you disapprove of. Here's the power to conscript our children and use them up in pointless foreign wars. Here's the power to send thugs to break down our doors in the middle of the night and murder us in our sleep. Here's the power to make radical foreign terrorists so angry at us that they kill us by the thousands. "Okay...got all that? Can you carry it? You okay? Great: good luck. See you on C-SPAN. "Oh--wait. One more thing. Almost forgot. Here's a bullseye to wear on your back in case we decide you're getting a bit uppity in the way you use all those powers." Sounds fair to me. You got a point. and another post by one of the other dumphucks on the eastern side of the country.
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Cuz' NOTHING we have said up to now is as loony as what's just been posted by the Philosopher General......and it's NOT the sorta' chit I associate with, so I am History from this,....until they are gone. +1
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Ron,...we just need to turn this OVER to these two azzwholes,.....Talk about "painting Targets" on peoples back,.....this [bleep]' "Barak" azzwhole just carved "Drop an A-Bomb Here" into the 24Hour site,...with a [bleep]' DOZER.
Trh will be running around filling it with fluorescent paint.
Double dittos, Mike.
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I can't believe they let those two Corksockers near children, or incarcerated felons. Here's the thing about people who volunteer in prisons, not that I'm against it. They get a distorted view of inmates. Inmates are on their best behavior in front of these people. Yet these people will talk as experts and think I'm just a hard azz thug as a C/O, not realizing that I spend 8 hours + a day with those same inmates and know far more about them than they ever will.
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Damn, this sure brought out the loonies.
This, and other events of the nature, are more damaging to the right of lawful citizens to bear arms than all the rantings of the myriad anti-gun cabals. Let us hope he is not an NRA member with a CCW.
What we have here is a perfect storm: a white rightwing nutcase attacks a liberal Congresswoman using a handgun with a high cap magazine in gun friendly Arizona. This is what the Antis live for. Stand back and brace for recoil.
Best thing we can do is to loudly condemn the shooter as a deranged rightwing nutcase, another Timothy MacVeigh.
This is not going to be pretty.
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A man that professes to be a christian spreading the good work with loosers in prison, and can't see what he writes "just another politican and judge"
And because of his dicked up prejiduce doesn't think of a woman with two kids, and a judge with a family that didn't deserve what happened to them because they were just a politician and a judge. Hey--it's not as though they involuntarily became a politician and a judge through a random act of God. They both worked very hard at getting to where they were. Lots of deliberate time, effort, money, influence, and corruption to get to the point where they had enough power to piss off enough people that statistically they ran across one who would do something about it. I'm sure it was very gratifying to them to be part of the ruling-class elite. Well, ruling-class elite sometimes get assassinated. Corruption has a price. They knew--or should have known--what they were getting into. Hopefully they provided for their families accordingly. On the other hand, the disease of political ambition has been demonstrated to be at least partly genetic. If their kids are going to grow up to be politicians too, it's tough for me to feel too bad for them.
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This thread has brought out the worst in everyone.
Bottom line: the guy was a psycho, the incident was a tragedy no matter who was hurt, and the MSM and politicians will undoubtedly and despicably try to exploit the matter for their own benefit. Let's all move on- albeit saddened.
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Barak, you are truly f-ucked up. Welcome to my ignore list.
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A man that professes to be a christian spreading the good work with loosers in prison, and can't see what he writes "just another politican and judge"
And because of his dicked up prejiduce doesn't think of a woman with two kids, and a judge with a family that didn't deserve what happened to them because they were just a politician and a judge. Hey--it's not as though they involuntarily became a politician and a judge through a random act of God. They both worked very hard at getting to where they were. Lots of deliberate time, effort, money, influence, and corruption to get to the point where they had enough power to piss off enough people that statistically they ran across one who would do something about it. I'm sure it was very gratifying to them to be part of the ruling-class elite. Well, ruling-class elite sometimes get assassinated. Corruption has a price. They knew--or should have known--what they were getting into. Hopefully they provided for their families accordingly. On the other hand, the disease of political ambition has been demonstrated to be at least partly genetic. If their kids are going to grow up to be politicians too, it's tough for me to feel too bad for them. [bleep] me Jesus, you are a complete nut job. Course since you are an autistic SOB, I shouldn't be bothered and I'm not. Still a shame that train didn't come along the day you laid your head upon the rails to commit suicide. Figures you couldn't even do that.
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Damn, this sure brought out the loonies.
This, and other events of the nature, are more damaging to the right of lawful citizens to bear arms than all the rantings of the myriad anti-gun cabals. Let us hope he is not an NRA member with a CCW.
What we have here is a perfect storm: a white rightwing nutcase attacks a liberal Congresswoman using a handgun with a high cap magazine in gun friendly Arizona. This is what the Antis live for. Stand back and brace for recoil.
Best thing we can do is to loudly condemn the shooter as a deranged rightwing nutcase, another Timothy MacVeigh.
This is not going to be pretty.
First of all Skippy, get your "facts" straight. WHAT actual information do you possess that lead you to believe the shooter was "right wing" ??? His Youtube videos showed an AMERICAN FLAG being burned. He was REJECTED for service by the US Army (never served) DOES THAT sound like a "right wing" nutcase? It sounds to ME like some socialist [bleep] from Marin county or Berkley! Maybe you should get a job as a reporter for CNN- you certainly bring a left wing slant to your 'facts".
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