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Sounded a little like Hawkeye or similar
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I read what you write.
What makes it right for a judge or a congressman to get shot but not your wife? Somebody loves them as much or more than you do your wife.
Larry *********** "Speed is fine but accuracy is final" - Bill Jordan "We do not exaggerate when we state positively that the remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable "all 'round" rifle".......Seymour Griffin, GRIFFIN & HOWE, Inc.
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I read what you write.
What makes it right for a judge or a congressman to get shot but not your wife? Somebody loves them as much or more than you do your wife. My wife does not hunger after coercive power over others. She does not claim a monopoly over the initiation of force. She does not commit acts that would be instantly identified as crimes if they came from any source other than government. She does useful things for which she is voluntarily compensated by people who freely choose to hire her. In short, she is not a politician. She is morally superior to a politician. (A tapeworm is morally superior to a politician: it does survive parasitically on its host's essence, the same way a politician does, but at least it's not corrupt.) I'm not going to say it was right for this particular congresswoman and judge to be shot; but however right or wrong it was, it was more wrong for the other people and the little girl to be shot.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867
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Damn, this sure brought out the loonies.
This, and other events of the nature, are more damaging to the right of lawful citizens to bear arms than all the rantings of the myriad anti-gun cabals. Let us hope he is not an NRA member with a CCW.
What we have here is a perfect storm: a white rightwing nutcase attacks a liberal Congresswoman using a handgun with a high cap magazine in gun friendly Arizona. This is what the Antis live for. Stand back and brace for recoil.
Best thing we can do is to loudly condemn the shooter as a deranged rightwing nutcase, another Timothy MacVeigh.
This is not going to be pretty.
First of all Skippy, get your "facts" straight. WHAT actual information do you possess that lead you to believe the shooter was "right wing" ??? His Youtube videos showed an AMERICAN FLAG being burned. He was REJECTED for service by the US Army (never served) DOES THAT sound like a "right wing" nutcase? It sounds to ME like some socialist [bleep] from Marin county or Berkley! Maybe you should get a job as a reporter for CNN- you certainly bring a left wing slant to your 'facts". If you wish to address me in a respectful manner I will return the favor, otherwise I shall ignore your insolence. He was addressing you respectfully. We will all have to wait and see what his background was. I'm sure the MSM will give us an objective look in the coming days. From the limited stuff I've seen posted so far, he looks a lot closer to a left-wing nutcase than any right-winger. Right wingers don't have the Communist Manifesto as one of their favorite books. Mein Kampf either.
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I read what you write.
What makes it right for a judge or a congressman to get shot but not your wife? Somebody loves them as much or more than you do your wife. My wife does not hunger after coercive power over others. She does not claim a monopoly over the initiation of force. She does not commit acts that would be instantly identified as crimes if they came from any source other than government. She does useful things for which she is voluntarily compensated by people who freely choose to hire her. In short, she is not a politician. She is morally superior to a politician. (A tapeworm is morally superior to a politician: it does survive parasitically on its host's essence, the same way a politician does, but at least it's not corrupt.) I'm not going to say it was right for this particular congresswoman and judge to be shot; but however right or wrong it was, it was more wrong for the other people and the little girl to be shot. When in a deep hole, it is often advisable to quit digging. If not, sooner or later the sides will cave in.
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The guy who committed these unspeakable acts today was just a little further down the road, that's all. You just have to hope that when they finally blow you're nowhere near them.
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I'm not going to say it was right for this particular congresswoman and judge to be shot; but however right or wrong it was, it was more wrong for the other people and the little girl to be shot.
In other words you are saying it is more justifiable to shoot a congress person or a judge than a bystander?
Larry *********** "Speed is fine but accuracy is final" - Bill Jordan "We do not exaggerate when we state positively that the remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable "all 'round" rifle".......Seymour Griffin, GRIFFIN & HOWE, Inc.
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(A tapeworm is morally superior to a politician: it does survive parasitically on its host's essence, the same way a politician does, but at least it's not corrupt.)
I'm not going to say it was right for this particular congresswoman and judge to be shot; but however right or wrong it was, it was more wrong for the other people and the little girl to be shot.
Easy there Seabiscuit. Might be time to just walk away from the computer and call it a night. Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
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On the other hand, the disease of political ambition has been demonstrated to be at least partly genetic. If their kids are going to grow up to be politicians too, it's tough for me to feel too bad for them.
That has to be the most vile thing I've ever read here.
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That has to be the most vile thing I've ever read here.
I'd have to agree. Outrageous.
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Might be time to just walk away from the computer and call it a night.
Brian.
That's good advice Brian. I am going to take it also before I say something I'll be sorry for later.
Larry *********** "Speed is fine but accuracy is final" - Bill Jordan "We do not exaggerate when we state positively that the remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable "all 'round" rifle".......Seymour Griffin, GRIFFIN & HOWE, Inc.
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However, it's just as true that because you do what you do and know what you know, you could never do what I do. Don't be too sure of that. Fact is if I get a chance to speak of Christ I do. I also make sure there is a bible provided when the inmate asks for it when I'm working the hole. But I don't let them play games, step across the line and the hammer drops, no matter who they are. When you establish reputation you can do that. And incidentally, I have no idea whether you're a hardass thug. Some COs are; some are pretty much regular folks; and a very few have such a gift for the job that everybody loves them, from the prisoners to the volunteers to the other COs clear on up to the warden. I've met two such in my twenty-some years of volunteering. As far as I know now, you could be in any of those categories. I think you do, I used to have the tag GarryC here. We have conversed many times about these matters.
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As another member pointed out to me in a PM, there's an interesting dynamic going on here.
Lots of folks here believe that the State will eventually push decent folks far enough that violence will become the only viable option, and it's one of the reasons many of us have as many guns as we do.
However, that being said, there does seem to be a surprisingly strong knee-jerk reflex around here to squirt instant sympathy for any State figure or entity that can be successfully portrayed by the State's intellectuals as a victim.
I wonder how those two attitudes will play out when the time comes. It just goes to show you how full of schitt most folks are. Good Lord, one less politician and judge in the world. I'll be crying for weeks over this.
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We will all have to wait and see what his background was. I'm sure the MSM will give us an objective look in the coming days. From the limited stuff I've seen posted so far, he looks a lot closer to a left-wing nutcase than any right-winger. Right wingers don't have the Communist Manifesto as one of their favorite books. Mein Kampf either. I predict they won't mention his political motivations and will focus on the gun. Remember the Uni-Bomber. He was an ecoterrorist. I bet that really po'd the press who hoped it would be a white supremacist, a McVey type.
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We will all have to wait and see what his background was. I'm sure the MSM will give us an objective look in the coming days. From the limited stuff I've seen posted so far, he looks a lot closer to a left-wing nutcase than any right-winger. Right wingers don't have the Communist Manifesto as one of their favorite books. Mein Kampf either. I predict they won't mention his political motivations and will focus on the gun. Quote from the sheriff: "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," he said. "And unfortunately, Arizona, I think, has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry." In other words, it's those evil, hate filled bigoted people from Arizona that pushed him over the edge. Sheesh, give me a break. Maybe they're tired of being invaded by illegal occupiers? From the same AP article: A gunman targeted Rep. Gabrielle Giffords as she met with constituents outside a busy supermarket Saturday, wounding the Democrat and killing Arizona's chief federal judge and five others in an attack that left Americans questioning whether divisive politics had pushed the suspect over the edge. Yep, that's it. We need to shut our mouths and bow down to Obama's every wish. Then the killings will stop.
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The hate and vitriol spewed by the anti-1070 crowd is probably what this dude was fueled by. Again, it will only be by the most violent spinning that he can be characterized as anything but far-left, from what I've seen.
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The hate and vitriol spewed by the anti-1070 crowd is probably what this dude was fueled by. The dude was fueled by his extreme mental illness. Nothing more, nothing less. Brian.
"You set your own goals for success, and when you succeed it don't necessarily mean that you're going to be a big star or make a lot of money or anything. You'll feel it in your heart whether you've succeeded or not." - Roy Buchanan
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You real sure you don't want to run with "White and Right Wing" ?
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I read what you write.
What makes it right for a judge or a congressman to get shot but not your wife? Somebody loves them as much or more than you do your wife. My wife does not hunger after coercive power over others. She does not claim a monopoly over the initiation of force. She does not commit acts that would be instantly identified as crimes if they came from any source other than government. She does useful things for which she is voluntarily compensated by people who freely choose to hire her. In short, she is not a politician. She is morally superior to a politician. (A tapeworm is morally superior to a politician: it does survive parasitically on its host's essence, the same way a politician does, but at least it's not corrupt.) I'm not going to say it was right for this particular congresswoman and judge to be shot; but however right or wrong it was, it was more wrong for the other people and the little girl to be shot. I really HOPE that folks here will have common sense enough to just clearly file you away as "The Enemy", based on this little verbal/text/oral defecation. I mean FILE THIS SOMEWHERE folks. You are a [bleep]' sicko, and have nothing of any particular value , or substance to contribute here,...... I'd just like that to be on record, in these troubled times. If I were you,...I'd avoid me, and my ilk. We're not "of like mind" GTC
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