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BTW Barak, did you read my verse?

That in itself relegates the politicians to the status of subhumans and directly implies that they're less entitled to the same God-given rights as humans � which therefore implies that anyone who "violates" any of those rights is justified in doing so.

An odd way, indeed, to love your neighbor as yourself.

Tunnel vision is unwise enough. Watching the world through a hypodermic needle is even less realistic.

Jesus also instructed us not to resist robbers, but he did not imply by this that robbery was not robbery.

Here's something fresh, Wonder where this'll go...a still photo of a guy on a store security camera,.....

GTC


Link: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/51bb5006-1bd6-11e0-9fec-001cc4c002e0.html


Police release photo of man 'possibly associated' with suspect

Posted: Sunday, January 9, 2011 2:44 am


Police are seeking a man who was seen at the shopping center where Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot and may possibly be associated with the suspect who is in custody.

He is described as Caucasian, 40 to 50 years old, dark hair and was wearing blue jeans and a dark blue jacket, according to the police media release.

Anyone with information is asked to contact 911, 88-CRIME or the FBI at 791-6974.

She voted to implement state sanctioned murder, no? Or I mean at least that is what a lot of you have said previously about the health care reform bill. Is getting drunk and having a wreck that results in the death of a young lady somehow worse than consciously voting for a bill that over 70% of your constituents WERE AGAINST that will result in the deaths of thousands if not millions of people?

Once again, I think it is a trajedy all the way around. I'm just trying to figure out whose death the board says that I can cheer, and whose death is a trajedy.

How is it robbery if he instructed us to pay taxes?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:15-22&version=NIV
Same location barak posted his verse from so you guys don't think I am lying or something.

Either way no justification that the judge and congresswoman were less important than the others at the crime like Barak is suggesting. everyone was equally important in this. If there is one that is more important is that poor little girl that still ahd the world infront of her.
No justification buddy for anyone to have died.

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...........Not comparing you politically to Obama. I was comparing your user name to him.

So you're appointing yourself judge, jury and executioner?


lol


Folks will justify anything when it suites them. No one can say with 100% certainty that 'ol Teddy murdered that girl but they have no problem calling for him to befall a horrible death because he's a Kennedy and a liberal so therefore he must be guilty.


As others have pointed it is somewhat fascinating seeing all the empathy for a politician by many of the same folks who not so subtly called for an open season on liberals and moderates.


As for 'ol Ted,....he didn't rate half a shrug.

Interesting debate.

Just curious, had Elser, Stauffenberg, Tresckow et al been successful in their attempts to kill Hitler and saved several million lives..... would those suggesting that assassination attempts are always wrong, still hold that opinion?

Obviously Giffords isn't Hitler, the question is only as to the opinions that it wouldn't matter even if it was Pelosi or Obama.

So is it the individual act you all are condemning or is it a subjective judgment as to whether the target was deserving?


And if individual acts are always wrong, exactly how do you fellas figure you would stop a tyrant if we ever had one? Voting is done away with or reached a point of charade.... Protesting and forming of militias will, under a tyrant, be illegal and met with force either overtly or Gestapo/Stasi/NKVD style.

So how do you fellas gauge what is an acceptable act and what is not?

Here's our former Surgeon General, Dr. Richard Carmona. Years back this fellow was on his way to work, and in busy Tucson traffic (around Grant and Oracle).....came upon a crime in progress, classic "Loonie with a Gun" scenario.

He exited his car, and dropped the loonie with one well placed shot from his sidearm.

Some other attendent video in this .....

Link: http://azstarnet.com/online/video/vmix_a1ab5f92-1ba0-11e0-b637-001cc4c03286.html

No, I think you're making too big a leap there. A horse, for example, is pretty uncontroversially subhuman, but that doesn't imply that anyone who kills a horse is justified in doing so. There are good reasons to kill a horse and bad reasons to kill a horse, and in general somebody who kills a horse for a bad reason should expect hard times ahead.

Nevertheless, a situation where a human dies and a horse survives is more tragic than a situation where a horse dies and a human survives.

As to whether politicians are subhuman or not...it's an interesting question. If they are simply fundamentally incapable of restraining themselves, then they don't bear any moral responsibility for the death and devastation they cause, but they're also pretty undeniably subhuman.

On the other hand, if they're fully human, it means that they've chosen to commit the crimes they've committed, when they could have made different choices instead, and are therefore fully responsible for them.


I'll admit that it'd be awfully difficult for me to love a politician. Much easier to love an armed robber.

Say--if it works out that they're subhuman, does that mean they don't count as neighbors?

A FIRST person murder vs something that has yet to occur??? Hell if Barney Fwanks should get AIDS as a result of his homosexual BEHAVIOR and ACTS and die horribly, I wouldn't waste my time on sympathy for him either. Gabrielle Giffords and the other folks had done nothing that would call for such a fierce retribution. So cut the Kunstler/Kuby approach.

"So how do you fellas gauge what is an acceptable act and what is not?"

On a case to case basis,...like any REAL Conservative does, after thorough examination of conscience.

Most CERTAINLY not by paying attention to some of the diseased weirdos posting here.

GTC

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Barak and TRH do you guys hunt?

It would seem, then, that we are all in agreement on that point.

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Sorry fellas, meant to say the Senate Judiciary Committee rather than HOR. Of course, such committee is now chaired by the GOP.Plus,in the very unlikely event the top 4 conservative Justices or Kennedy were subject to being replaced, Senate confirmation of a lib Justice would be very unlikely given the current make-up of the Senate coupled with cloture and filibuster options. To think another SOTO or Kagan is going to happen on this watch only gives you props for a very,vivid imagination.So, you're still paranoid.

And there you have it.


We rate our compassion for politicians based on their record.

Yes, but not particularly well. (Me, anyway; I don't know about The_Real_Hawkeye.) I'm more of a shooter than I am a hunter. So far I've always made good kill shots--never wounded an animal--but I suck at things like analyzing the terrain and walking quietly through the woods. I also eat what I shoot and I've never collected trophies or posed for pictures...it's always seemed a bit ghoulish to me.

Does that help?