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Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"

But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"

"Caesar's," they replied.

Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

In Romans 13:1, Paul brings further clarification to this concept, along with an even broader responsibility to Christians:

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Therefore, we can conclude from this verse, if we don't pay taxes we are rebelling against the authorities established by God.

Romans 13:2 gives this warning:

"Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And finally, regarding the paying of taxes, Paul couldn't make it any clearer in Romans 13:5-7:

Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


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Barak is an anarchist. He has this fantasy that the total lack of government is utopia. He will not acknowledge history and that fact that someone will be in power, even if that is a feudal lord. It would not be all peace and love. As a stated christian he should know that.

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Originally Posted by Cossatotjoe_redux


Just so I understand you, It's okay to shoot illegal aliens who may be nothing more than men, women, and children looking for a better life, but politicians are off limits?

That's your position, right?



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Originally Posted by Cossatotjoe_redux
� I'm just trying to get a handle on whose death this board says it is okay to cheer. �

That's easy � never applaud any death, no matter what the haters and the vengeful may say about it, and no matter how justified it may be. (Hitler, Manson, and McVeigh come to mind.) Every human death is a human tragedy, even those that include blessed relief.

Even those who die in agony from natural causes leave achy voids while they themselves attain painless peace. I don't want anyone to grieve over my death, and I don't want anyone to applaud it.


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Barak is a nut job. It's a fact that he's autistic and autistic folks are about as emotionless/detached as they come involving others. I'm sure he could give a [bleep] about anyone, as it's obvious he doesn't about himself since he had previously attempted to commit suicide.

It's also apparent that he is such a screw-up that we wasn't even able to pull off killing himself, which we now all have to suffer from his ineptitude.

Is it really a wonder he's a computer guy (requires little human interaction, which he sucks at). Of course he deals with prisoners also, because where the heck can they run to.



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Off into Barakistan we go, as the Barakian attention-whore twists this thread right down the rabbit hole with him.



Coming from two guys who have 10's of thousands of posts on an internet forum betwen them, calling somebody else a nut and attention whore is rather strange in and of itself........


Oh yeah, that's right, this thread is about an elected official and a score of other Americans who have been killed and wounded.......


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You certainly prove that post count has nothing to do with smarts. Course you are pretty good at the victim yourself, bitch.


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Originally Posted by Cossatotjoe_redux
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by wisturkeyhunter
Barak and TRH do you guys hunt?

Yes, but not particularly well. (Me, anyway; I don't know about The_Real_Hawkeye.) I'm more of a shooter than I am a hunter. So far I've always made good kill shots--never wounded an animal--but I suck at things like analyzing the terrain and walking quietly through the woods. I also eat what I shoot and I've never collected trophies or posed for pictures...it's always seemed a bit ghoulish to me.

Does that help?




I'd venture to say that ANY animal with normal animal senses goes to full red alert within 5-600 yards of your [bleep] up personna.

Hell, I'd BET on it.

My gentlest of dogs alerts, barks and growls at creeps,.....as I am sure she would at YOU.

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Just so I understand you, It's okay to shoot illegal aliens who may be nothing more than men, women, and children looking for a better life, but politicians are off limits?

That's your position, right?



Is that addressed to me ? If it is you are a lying co$ksucker, and I DEFY you to post ONE example of any text I've written endorsing that approach

[bleep] you Pal, and your entire lineage.

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I bet if this Congress Woman lives and she is functional she will become the new replacement for Sarah Brady.


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Originally Posted by isaac
But, if your own self worth is elevated in your mind by you believing you can make 2-3 certifiable whack-jobs atta-boy you,then I think you should go with what works for you.



Works for me.

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Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Originally Posted by Cossatotjoe_redux
� I'm just trying to get a handle on whose death this board says it is okay to cheer. �

That's easy � never applaud any death, no matter what the haters and the vengeful may say about it, and no matter how justified it may be. (Hitler, Manson, and McVeigh come to mind.) Every human death is a human tragedy, even those that include blessed relief.

Even those who die in agony from natural causes leave achy voids while they themselves attain painless peace. I don't want anyone to grieve over my death, and I don't want anyone to applaud it.


I doubt I ever said or thought anything different. I just want to know whose death the board says it is alright to cheer. Lots of people seem willing to justify some and condemn others. And then condemn those who appear to use the same logic. It is all very confusing.

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Originally Posted by rrroae

Folks will justify anything when it suits them.


Yep.

No habit or quality is more easily acquired than hypocrisy.



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Originally Posted by bea175
I bet if this Congress Woman lives and she is functional she will become the new replacement for Sarah Brady.


Brain damage can do that to a person....

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Rather pathetic and extraordinarily lazy.



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"It is all very confusing."

You SOUND confused Dic$head,

.....I repeat, was that CHIT about shooting Mexicans directed towards me ?

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Just so I understand you, It's okay to shoot illegal aliens who may be nothing more than men, women, and children looking for a better life, but politicians are off limits?

That's your position, right?
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Is that addressed to me ? If it is you are a lying co$ksucker, and I DEFY you to post ONE example of any text I've written endorsing that approach



That sounds more like me than crossfire. And I only say shoot them if they run or give armed resistance.


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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
I'd venture to say that ANY animal with normal animal senses goes to full red alert within 5-600 yards of your [bleep] up personna.

Well, if that's the case, then I'm here to tell you that animals without normal animal senses still taste pretty stinkin' good.

In case you were wondering, I mean.


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Nothing to wonder about,.....you HAVE defined yourself more then adequately.

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
"It is all very confusing."

You SOUND confused Dic$head,

.....I repeat, was that CHIT about shooting Mexicans directed towards me ?

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Medical condition update on Fox now


Pretty much as I expected. Knew of a guy who lost the side of his head when a grinding wheel on a crankshaft grinder blew up, a chunk of the wheel struck him on the side of his head. He was in a coma for a few months. Last I heard they had to teach him how to walk, talk and feed himself again...

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In Romans 13:1, Paul brings further clarification to this concept, along with an even broader responsibility to Christians:

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Therefore, we can conclude from this verse, if we don't pay taxes we are rebelling against the authorities established by God.


This has been posted before.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/case/case35.1.html


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Romans 13:2 gives this warning:

"Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."


I'll take my chances.

I believe that scripture, in this area/topic, is deliberately misapplied. The reasons why should be obvious.

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Just so I understand you, It's okay to shoot illegal aliens who may be nothing more than men, women, and children looking for a better life, but politicians are off limits?

That's your position, right?
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Is that addressed to me ? If it is you are a lying co$ksucker, and I DEFY you to post ONE example of any text I've written endorsing that approach



That sounds more like me than crossfire. And I only say shoot them if they run or give armed resistance.


This guy is a spin-doctorin', word twisting piece of cowardly chit.

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