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We just yesterday witnessed indefensible actions by an incomprehensible, mentally unstable, lunatic whose ramblings about creating new currencies, realities, societies, etc., were clear warning signs.

Just because a mentally unstable lunatic whose ramblings about creating new currencies, realities, societies, etc., are comprehensible does not mean that they are not clear warning signs.

Just one question: Would threatening to beat up somebody on the Campfire qualify as volatile?

Pretty much as I expected. Knew of a guy who lost the side of his head when a grinding wheel on a crankshaft grinder blew up, a chunk of the wheel struck him on the side of his head. He was in a coma for a few months. Last I heard they had to teach him how to walk, talk and feed himself again...

This thread sure turned into a piece of crap.

Saying "It wasn't Giffords, it couldn't have been Giffords, nothing she said or did could possibly have had anything to do with it, he was just insane" seems to prematurely eliminate a lot of possibilities.

Laffin' here...

isaac, if just one Justice changes his or her mind, Heller and/or McDonald can be reversed. Who knows how the shooting of a federal judge will impact future Supreme Court decisions. Probably not for the better as far as I am concerned. Rick

"Thats what being sick will do to your brain. My head is pritty f'ed up right now"

You were a guest here in my community. Some of the folks that I introduced you to have READ the crap you're posting.

They are UP for doing a brief video interview about their impressions of you,.......and I'd note that I've said NOTHING about the way you treated the hospitality here, both at my place and theirs.

Keep [bleep]' with this,.....make a nice smelly bed to lay in,...and I WILL come turn the covers down.

Our very own "Armed to the Teeth SURVIVOR",.....the thirsty one, that's going to "STEEL" water in Az. when "SHTF"

don't poke a bear in it's lair,....young man,.....if you are going to use my name,....do it with a little respect.

That go's both ways

GTC

At the risk of getting atacked by Crossfireopps.

IN MY OPINION

This is a great tradity for the whole country.

If you look at history it is the fanatic liberals that are the most violent. They do the bombings against the abortion doctors , they are the ones that break into the poloticains offices , they are the ones that atack the police and riot at any chance that they can get like sporting events or demonstrations (FOR THE MOST PART). Conservitive Republicans protest by Yelling and screaming some times but you do not here of them tipping over cars and setting them on fire.

This event is not unlike the suicide bombers. You have some self apointed big shot (usualy deranged himself)some where that finds some easilly manipulated lacky that will do his dirty work for him.

This is a tragic situation that has happend but the media and the poloticians will spin it in the wrong dirrection for there own agenda instead of looking into slowing down situations like this. they will never be able to stop the loons but this kid was being watched becouse they new he was a loon and they still could not stop him. If the system worked they would have been able to stop him and catch the guy putting him up to it.

Unfortunatly I think that untill our government starts doing what the peaple want these things are only going to happen more often and get more violent than this instance.

Controlling the peaple like the way they are trying to do is not the way.

The deceased, from a lunatic's actions - a federal judge who happened to stop by at the wrong time, a 9-year-old child, born on 9/11, a man who'd recently become engaged, a husband shielding his wife...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/09/arizona-shooting-latest-developments/?hpt=T2

In addition to the 12 people wounded in the shooting, the following six were killed:

� John Roll, 63. A native of Pennsylvania, Roll was a federal judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona who had served the legal system for nearly 40 years. He began his career as a bailiff in Pima County Superior Court and rose to be chief judge for the District of Arizona, a position he held since 2006.

He received death threats two years ago after he ruled that a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher in the state could proceed. He had been assigned to hear the ethnic studies ban case out of Tucson that involves a new law banning certain ethnic studies programs in public schools, according to the lead attorney on the case, Richard Martinez. Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts called Roll's death a tragic loss.

� Christina Taylor Greene, 9. She was born on September 11, 2001, according to CNN affiliate KVOA. Family members described her as "excited" about the political process, and said the desire to learn more about it had motivated her to go to the Gifford event, the affiliate said. Christina had just been elected to the student council at her school, the Arizona Republic reported. She died at a hospital, and not at the scene like the other five.

� Gabe Zimmerman, 30. A Tucson native who was engaged to be married, Zimmerman was the director of community outreach for the congresswoman.

� Dorwin Stoddard, 76. Dory, as his family calls him, was a retired construction worker, said Pastor Mike Nowak at Mount Avenue Church of Christ in Tucson. Witnesses told CNN that Stoddard tried to shield his wife, Mavy, was shot in the head and fell on her. The wife was shot three times in her legs; the bullets were removed and she is expected to make a full recovery.

� Dorothy Morris, 76

� Phyllis Scheck, 79

On 12-17-10 you posted this:

"I have been watched for over 5 years now no big deal ....."

Now isn't THAT interesting?

I think you may have found a new soulmate, in Barak,....Ace.

GTC

Part of your problem is you think more than a few give a schit about your disenfranchised,whiney-assed opinions!! Have you ever once commented on anything which would have manifested some sort of optimism or an acknowledgement of light at the end of the tunnel? Your posts reek of the commiseration of misery.

I'll follow the "herd",as you like to call it, of normal,hard working men who follow the rules and are motivationally driven over lightweights who incessantly complain over the internet of all things bad, while content in just getting by and doing nothing further to improve their situations and attitude, any day of the week,sport. I'm weird that way!

Were I you, I'd discount that opinion, as well.

Actually, I've already been through that stage and come out the other side. I'm actually further down the road than he is. There was a span of maybe three months or so a few years back when it's only by the grace of God that I didn't set my affairs in order, withdraw a bunch of savings, toss a rifle in the truck, drive to Washington, and pot me as many politicians as I could before they got me.

But my perspective is considerably more mature now, because of two points that were revealed to me.

First, it's not useful to be angry at politicians for being corrupt human trash, any more than it would be useful to be angry at fish for swimming or birds for flying. They're politicians; it's who they are and what they do. Anger stems from unmet expectations, and anyone who expects politicians to be anything other than gilded scum is a fool.

Second, when a politician is assassinated, three things happen: he becomes a martyr, with everybody saying how great he was and how sad it is that he's dead (you can see that right here on this thread); and he simply gets replaced with another politician. The depravity of human nature assures that there will always be more garbage standing in line to take his place. Then, of course, the martyr-worshipers beg the State to take more of their liberties away so that their rulers can be safer.

So no, I won't be flying into any rages and killing any politicians. My objective is to suck power away from the State, not to hand it more.

Her politics may have had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. This gathering could have just been the high visibility event to get the shooter the infamy he was probably seeking.

I think government as we know it today is morally reprehensible at its very foundations, and that it cannot be reformed into anything that isn't reprehensible and can still be called government. Therefore, I'm agin' it. Period.