The velcro fastener,is gonna add another $700 to the fray...................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Out of curiousity, to what range are your elevation turrets calibrate for?
Also, if your windage turrets are marked in wind speed, how do you account for different strengths coming from different points of the compass?
Regards,
Peter
Pete,
The max distance on the Drop Compensating Turret will depend on the rifle the optic is mounted on and the conditions used to generate the trajectory.
We get 20 MOA in a rotation on our custom scopes so we will get a little further max range in one rotation that the stock Leupold.
I will give you an example:
7MM WSM shooting the 162gr Hornady AMAX Muzzle Velocity 3100fps
Now let�s say we will use this rifle hunting costal blacktail in SE Alaska. Our hunting conditions will range from beach hunting at sea level to maybe a max of 3000ft if we are tough and want to climb from the beach to the alpine.
I would recommend setting the turret for 1500ft and 40degrees temp.
From a 200yd zero we would need 19.5 MOA to get us to 950yds. We would etch the 950yard hash at 19 2/3s MOA and that would be one click short of a full revolution.
The rest of the dial will be etched with the appropriate ranges.
We don�t dial for wind but use the reticle with the hash marks in one MOA increments.
The 10 MPH wind drift is etched on the elevation turret above each hundred yard increment.
In this example the 900 yard zero will have a 4 � etched above the 9 to indicate the bullet will drift 4 � MOA at 900yds in a true 10 MPH crosswind.
Here is a video link that might be of interest.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Out of curiousity, to what range are your elevation turrets calibrate for?
Also, if your windage turrets are marked in wind speed, how do you account for different strengths coming from different points of the compass?
Regards,
Peter
Pete,
The max distance on the Drop Compensating Turret will depend on the rifle the optic is mounted on and the conditions used to generate the trajectory.
We get 20 MOA in a rotation on our custom scopes so we will get a little further max range in one rotation that the stock Leupold.
I will give you an example:
7MM WSM shooting the 162gr Hornady AMAX Muzzle Velocity 3100fps
Now let�s say we will use this rifle hunting costal blacktail in SE Alaska. Our hunting conditions will range from beach hunting at sea level to maybe a max of 3000ft if we are tough and want to climb from the beach to the alpine.
I would recommend setting the turret for 1500ft and 40degrees temp.
From a 200yd zero we would need 19.5 MOA to get us to 950yds. We would etch the 950yard hash at 19 2/3s MOA and that would be one click short of a full revolution.
The rest of the dial will be etched with the appropriate ranges.
We don�t dial for wind but use the reticle with the hash marks in one MOA increments.
The 10 MPH wind drift is etched on the elevation turret above each hundred yard increment.
In this example the 900 yard zero will have a 4 � etched above the 9 to indicate the bullet will drift 4 � MOA at 900yds in a true 10 MPH crosswind.
Here is a video link that might be of interest.
[bleep],you're a RIOT!
MOA for windage,but not ele...though you'll scratch [bleep] with a pocket knife?
Interestingly enough,these BDC's with MOA will grant 60MOA in a revolution.
Getta kick out 1/3 values too,if only because they's as obtuse as you. I'm cryin'.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
The only thing you can show me,is how inherently funny stupidity is and I do thank you for that.
It's epic!....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
When you post your first pic of an animal you have cleanly taken at distance I will be so proud of you. I will be the first to congratulate you on a job well done.
Now get out of the theoretical and go out there and get you some real practice so next year you will be ready.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Physics is only theoretical,to the oblivious...of which you wholeheartedly qualify...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I have an Ed Brown Damara in .300 Win Mag. It's light, around 7+ pounds with a brake. I'm shooting 180 gr. Ballistic Tips at 3,000 fps, approx. 1/2 MOA. I'm looking for a trim, light hunting scope with a ballistic turret, programmed for this load. Am looking at the Leupold VX-3, 3.5-10x40 CDS and the Swarovski Z3, 4-12x50 BT Reticle. I know there is a price spread there, but like both scopes. Cabelas has this Z3 on sale for around $1K, the Leupold will cost around $600 or so. The Leupold custom turrets are less expensive than the Outdoorsman's custom Swarovski turrets. I don't want the big, M1 Leupold type target turrets, just a simple one with a stop at 100 yds. Don't expect to shoot much over 500 yds. May need an extra turret for high altitude hunting.
Would appreciate input and advice.
Thanks,
DF
The One Load Wonder BDC's are a great gag gift,every Cough Silencer oughtta come with one.
Would love to hear how someone is stupid enough to screw a MOA scale up,with all staring them right in their crossed eyes..................
When you post your first pic of an animal you have cleanly taken at distance I will be so proud of you. I will be the first to congratulate you on a job well done.
Now get out of the theoretical and go out there and get you some real practice so next year you will be ready.
Hey Stick- you could end this right now with a quick pic of the deer you intentionally shot in the ass- SIDE of the ass no less- at what, 500 yds? You know, the pic with your coat over the whole back of the deer to cover up what that Amax must have done to the meat?
John I am trying to follow this stupid thread. As near as I can tell you offer a rifle package with the scope (of unknown quality) set up with a dial-a-deer knob.....for both elevation and windage. That would be canned come ups and windage values, not in MOA, but in knob settings. I am not a LR hunter, but primarily a target shooter. I have killed my last two elk at 500+ yards with a sporter 300 mag.
First if I read this correct you offer a rifle with calibrated windage. If so that is beyond compare, the most stupid promotion I could imagine. I would hope the price of your rilfe includes a PHD in wind reading.
In terms of elevation...if you offer a dial-a-deer setting there you should also offer a PHD in external ballistics and perhaps...$hit-assed luck.
I will respect your ability with your rifle (and I'm sure it is well built), but why not just offer simple MOA corrections to make your rifles more repeatable. I would think this is the way target shooters and hunters alike could comprehend.
I can't comment on your elevation corrections, but if you offer a pre determined windage knob.................that won't work