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I built a 6.5-06, same velocity. I really liked it and wrote and article in The Varmint Hunter about it. That was a great article and remember reading it before I knew you here at the Campfire. To bad though you didn't have 123 Scenars, 130 S2's, and 140 VLD's. I can take the 6.5 and make it do anything my 7 can do, in the LR hunting field.
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Rost, here is a snipet from an interview from Bryan Litz on the South Australian f-class site where he talks about the inherent precision of the 6.5 vs the 7mm. " Consider the 6.5mm vs 7mm debate. The consensus seems to be that the 6.5mm is inherently more precise than the 7mm�s, probably due to the effects of recoil on the platform and shooter. However the 7mm is a better ballistic performer, so there�s a trade-off.Bryan is another person I would tend to believe in addition to David. Full interview: http://www.safclass.com.au/celebrity3.htmlI would argue for the 6.5x284-better brass and no rim.
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Sendero, Great video! That youngster can shoot.
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I would argue for the 6.5x284-better brass and no rim. Not to mention a better ES as well.
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So, what's the do-all load for the 6.5x284?
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Take your pick Dave,
123 Scenars, 130 S2's, and 140 VLD's
I just bought a few hours ago, from here, a Sako A7 25-06 that's will be converted to a 6.5-284
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So, what's the do-all load for the 6.5x284? In my rifle, 58g H1000 with 140g Bergers/JLK. I think SU has a good load with Magnum. I had better velocity/SD with powders slower than H4831. (H4831 seems to be THE powder for this caliber with F-class/BR guys).
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I would argue for the 6.5x284-better brass and no rim. Not to mention a better ES as well. my 7mm load is in the single digits for SD and ES... can't get much better.
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Turd polishers gotta tell themselves sumptin' and that never ain't not funny. No polishing needed, Savage delivers out of the box. I have a few that do just that but I take your avoiding any particulars as further evidence.
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7mm bullets have changed A LOT since the Tubb and Scearcy era. The 7mm's are doing well in competition now days. I have had a pile of them in the last few years. Only one didn't shoot under MOA consistently and it was a full blown custom. It would only hold MOA. I take that back, I did have a Ruger that would only do 4 MOA...talk about a turd. I had a factory BDL that would shoot in the 3's very consistently with 140 grain ballistic tips. I didn't get fliers....still don't. But you have to look at what those guys considered "fliers". If a bullet went out of the group .002, it was considered a flier. 99.999% of us would never be good enough or burn enough powder in a rifle to notice such "idiosyncrasies". I don't do BR matches, so the .002 "flier" phenomenon doesn't interest me. Neither do the "pressure spikes" that are so often quoted buy people that never had pressure gauges or the ability to read them correctly. I use a little pixie dust in with my powder and don't experience such things. Flinch
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David,
I use my sporter wt. 6.5-284 for hunting and like the 140 SST with 52.3 gr. Vv 165, Lapua brass and Fed Gm215M primers. This gun is a blueprinted, Borden bump Pre-64 with a heavy sporter 26" Krieger Match grade SS, pillar bedded with Jewell trigger. This load shoots at about 2,950 fps with tight S.D.'s. Best 3 shot group so far at 100 yds was in the teens. It will shoot 1/2" all day long.
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Sendero,
Great speed goat. Good looking hunting associate holding the big rifle.
Big Stick,
Fine 7 Whizzum group. What did it measure? Looks like .3" or maybe less. No telling what it would have been without that "flyer". What bullets are you shooting?
DF Never measured it. Was gunning a zero and shooting comeups. 162A-Max..............
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Turd polishers gotta tell themselves sumptin' and that never ain't not funny. No polishing needed, Savage delivers out of the box. I have a few that do just that but I take your avoiding any particulars as further evidence. What particulars would you like to hear,in regards to the pieces of [bleep]?...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Any that reside somewhere other than your imagination.
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Cite the slot where their gunned as a Hard Use Rifle.
There goes the rest of your life.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Like how you try to turn it around.
Which models have you owned/shot? What broke on them, under hard use?
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I stated a simplistic fact,which you are more than a bunch uncomfortable with...because it's a fact. Fire up your Imagination and really air it out.
Laffin'.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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You sidestep well and reliably.
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I shoot and you only talk about it.
I've never been anything but chin up,chest out and breaking trail. You feel free to tell yourself,that which you most desperately need to hear.
Points awarded for saying it aloud...because it'll be hilarious!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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