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My buddy won a contract with a branch of the US military relating to modding their standard 12 ga. Specifically they have had major problems with cycling and feeding non-lethal loads. He's OK, but it sure could have been a right bad day...
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Man, that gave me the shivers! How did it happen?
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My buddy won a contract with a branch of the US military relating to modding their standard 12 ga. Specifically they have had major problems with cycling and feeding non-lethal loads. He's OK, but it sure could have been a right bad day... One must wonder why a branch of the military is suddenly so needful of non-lethal loads. Egypt comes to mind. The Mexican border comes to mind. One hopes that said military will indeed be pointed south.
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If they are pointed south I hope it is with standard munitions, NOT that "less than lethal" CRAP!
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1) That's a barrel obstruction. 2) Benelli's ain't designed to shoot light loads.
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lhonda; Thank you for sharing the photo with us. It does give one pause for reflection. There used to be a gun shop in Spokane called The Gunatorium - on Argonne as I recall. Anyway they had a whole row of blown shotgun barrels, perhaps more than 2 dozen as I remember them? A few of them looked like your friend's barrel with only a small split/bulge and then a few had really "blown up something wonderful" as the Mennonites would say. Thanks again and all the best to you and yours lhonda. Regards, Dwayne
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Task was to mod the guns so as to reliably feed NL loads (bags, rubber, gas) and be still able to function while mixing/matching standard live/lethal loads. This one had a beanbag ahead of 00 buck. Buddy saw the NL load exit, but didn't realize the wad/sheath had stayed behind. Touched off the buck, and voila. Could've very possibly had ended up in a 'look Ma, no hand!' moment.
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1) That's a barrel obstruction. 2) Benelli's ain't designed to shoot light loads. Pat wins the double Bingo prize. Perzactly correct, Lt. Good call.
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I called bean bag as soon as I saw it. Never quite understood the rationale for nonlethal loads in shotguns....if it's worth getting out the riot gun, it's worth stuffing it with something hard.
otherwise, just tase the dude and be done with it.
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They work pretty good when you have somebody holding themselves hostage with a knife in the middle of the highway...which is not nearly as uncommon as most would think.
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I called bean bag as soon as I saw it. Never quite understood the rationale for nonlethal loads in shotguns....if it's worth getting out the riot gun, it's worth stuffing it with something hard.
otherwise, just tase the dude and be done with it. Agreed, what's with the non lethal 12 ga. load, just use 9 shot. Of course up close it's deadly but I bet those bean bag loads are pretty dangerous at the muzzle.
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Beanbags are cool. Shootee's think they're dead for a few moments, then they're good as new.
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They work pretty good when you have somebody holding themselves hostage with a knife in the middle of the highway...which is not nearly as uncommon as most would think. TAZER Pat Tazer.
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1) That's a barrel obstruction. 2) Benelli's ain't designed to shoot light loads. Pat wins the double Bingo prize. Perzactly correct, Lt. Good call. Thanks! Good to know something for a change!
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Man, we beanbag those suckers at 20 yards! You know that if they got a weapon within taser range they gotta die.
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