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All this talk about the 308 reminds me of my last outing with my 308's and developing loads for my 2 new rifles. Here's a picture of the aggregate of around 60 shots fired at a target with my win model 70 FWT. The loads consisted of RE-15 and Varget charged casings. It's interesting to make note of the aggregate too. The group seems big at around 3 inches, but it is about 5 different loadings with the 2 different powders. Sometimes the target backboard will tell you more about consistency than the target will  : ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/008-11.jpg) Now that I have a good load developed, the aggregate should be much smaller than this one . BSA, I had a DPMS LR308 for a while, the 26" version that weighs like 12 pounds. I didn't shoot it much at 100 yards once I got my load worked up for it. But hot DAMN that thing was eager to please! It twice put TEN Noz 155-gn match bullets under .8" at 100 yards... ten of 'em, not 3, not 5. This from a big, ugly sumbitch of a gun shooting over the hood of my truck!  I still have one of those targets. Ten shots into .8" makes a nice, big single hole.  Sold that one when everyone was going batsh!t over Obama getting elected and AR-style rifles were selling for over list price. Bought my Sendero. Selling a rifle that accurate, is kind of wierd... But it was a beast. Not really useful for much other than "installation" shooting and I'm much more into practical riflery these days. Take a rifle for a walk, lay down, shoot stuff...
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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Luck....is the residue of design... ![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/96zvyt.gif)
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If you could own only one rifle it would be hard to the 308 Win . I have four rifles chambered in 308 and just purchased a new 308 Reamer to build myself another. I guess you could say i hate the 308 I concur,it'd be hard to suffer a 308. 7-08?...now you're makin' headway and at Warp Speed!.................. I had a Tikka in 7mm-08 and gave it to my hunting buddy and built myself the 7x57 which i prefer over the 7mm-08
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Unless there's a 162 Scenar I don't know about..................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Scenar, which do you prefer the 155 scenars or the 162 A-MAX?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Lapua doesn't make a 7mm Scenar...though one in 155 would assuredly smoke it's 30cal cousin.......................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Unless there's a 162 Scenar I don't know about..................(grin) Taking about scenars always does make the 7mm lovers cranky!
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I shoot the 155's in my .308's and the 162's in my .280AI. They both kill stuff.....dead.
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Joking aside, I have to wonder why Lapua don't do a 7mm Scenar?
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I'd like to try some 155 scenars in my FWT 308 one of these days.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Lapua doesn't make a 7mm Scenar...though one in 155 would assuredly smoke it's 30cal cousin....................... Someday I hope..wouldnt mind seeing some .25 cal scenars either...
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Joking aside, I have to wonder why Lapua don't do a 7mm Scenar? Same reason they don't 25's. Bean Counters................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Joking aside, I have to wonder why Lapua don't do a 7mm Scenar? I'd like a 7mm very much.
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Stick,
You must think something of the .308 or you would have traded it off. What you keeping it around for? Or another way of putting it, what do you use it for?
DF
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I've more than a few rifles and not all things is equal..................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Guess I was fishing for you to throw a cookie, or at least some crumbs to the .308...
DF
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Great 7-08 donor brass,especially in Lapua.................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Jeff don't figure how the 308 hangs with the 7/08 on wind drift or trajectory down range  and anyway I'm strictly talking about a hypothetical if it were used in my instance.You can't tell me our targeting deflection on the the mini guns would have been the same..just ain't buyin it!!.Velocity and BC would be much higher and that just doesn't equate to the same deflection..I DO know a little about the the 7.62 !!
You better be afraid of a ghost!!
"Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops
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A BC increase,in conjunction with a speed increase,has been knowed to do nice things downrange...in direct extrapolation....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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