|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851 |
But the .264 does suck....  Oh your sooo dead, talk about "my" favorite cartridge like that.  Here I had high hopes for you.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851 |
But the .264 does suck.... Sucks the life right out of critters it passes through.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 |
I'm sorry...I truly am......... 
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,249 Likes: 27
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,249 Likes: 27 |
But the .264 does suck.... Sucks the life right out of critters it passes through. I thought they suck the life right out of the barrel . A few shots and you need to replace
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,059
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,059 |
I thought the 243win and 220swift suck the life right out of the barrel too 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851 |
Depends on how you treat em.....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 606
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 606 |
Name one significant disadvantage the .308 Win has over the .30-06 or any �mid range 30 cal�. . you're gonna squabble over 150 FPS but yet in other posts you'll swear the 30-06 can do anything the 300 mag will do. I'll admit I'm not a magnum fan and I've used a 30-06 and I like it, but the 308 and 30-06 are closer in performance than are the 30-06 vs. 300 mag. And by the way, both are probably way overkill anyway on any deer inside of 300 yards. Can't imagine a 200 yard deer would notice a difference (nor would the shooter)between a 2820 fps 308 vs 2910 fps 30-06. ...................................MV .. 200 .. ME .. 200 .308 Win. (150 Sp) ....... 2820 2288 2648 1744 .308 Win. (165 PSP) ......2685 2264 2641 1878 .308 Win. (165 BTSP) .....2870 2456 3019 2211 .308 Win. (180 Sp) ........2620 2198 2743 1930 .30-06 Spfd. (150 Sp) .....2910 2342 2820 1827 .30-06 Spfd. (165 PSP) ...2800 2283 2872 1909 .30-06 Spfd. (165 BTSP) .3015 2575 3330 2428 .30-06 Spfd. (180 Sp) .....2700 2023 2913 1635 .300 Win. Mag. (150 Sp) .3290 2636 3605 2314 .300 Win. Mag. (180 Sp) .2960 2540 3501 2578
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 |
Not to be contentious, but you coulda stopped there...you nailed it...
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,371 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,371 Likes: 1 |
Your wrong, what else is new?
The .300WM and the .30-06 are not even close. They can do the same work but they aren't even close.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,537 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,537 Likes: 2 |
The .308 and 30-06 are closer than the .300 WinMag and .30-06, it not really even a valid comparison.
I've owned all three for numerous years, and have actually shot numerous deer with all three, and can't tell the difference in terminal performance in the field, especially between the '06 and the .308.
One poster mentioned heavier bullets. That is where the '06 begins to show it's advantage, at 180 grains and heavier.
The biggest difference is in the rifles themselves, and how they handle.
Two deer I have shot come to mind that were really quick to go down, both at close range (50 yards or so). One was with a .300 WinMag.
The other, a .30-30. Go figure.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197 |
Last edited by scenarshooter; 02/25/11.
Luck....is the residue of design... ![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/96zvyt.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,022 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,022 Likes: 1 |
Sandbagger!!
$$$ TRUMP AT THE PUMP 2024 $$$
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,383
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,383 |
Is it time to start putting up pics of dead stuff?.....Big dead stuff?
The suspense is killing me. Quit holding back and bring it. Everybody knows you can't kill anything with a .308 (and blue scares critters). ![[Linked Image]](http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk220/jds44/OldLucky-5.jpg)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12 |
Ever build a light 7mm?................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,371 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,371 Likes: 1 |
My Remington factory .30-06 with Remington Core-Lokt 180 grain ammo will shoot as good as or better than that.
Nothing wrong with the .308 accuracy wise, it's just second rate compared to cartridges like the .270 & .30-06.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,383
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,383 |
My Remington factory .30-06 with Remington Core-Lokt 180 grain ammo will shoot as good as or better than that.
Absolute and utter bullsh!t. I'd bet my truck you haven't ever shot groups like Scenarshooter posted in your life and that you couldn't duplicate them at 50 yards right now. Let's see some pictures to prove it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197 |
Ever build a light 7mm?................ I've got one in the oven right now.....I'll be necking down Lapua brass.....grin!
Luck....is the residue of design...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12 |
Barrel length? Twist? Contour? Stock?
A 22" 10" will spin 162's,but 9" is where it's at...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,644 Likes: 12 |
My Remington factory .30-06 with Remington Core-Lokt 180 grain ammo will shoot as good as or better than that.
Absolute and utter bullsh!t. I'd bet my truck you haven't ever shot groups like Scenarshooter posted in your life and that you couldn't duplicate them at 50 yards right now. Let's see some pictures to prove it. Don't take her Imagination away from her,it's ALL she's got...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,197 |
Barrel length? Twist? Contour? Stock?
A 22" 10" will spin 162's,but 9" is where it's at...............
#3 Rock @ 22" 1-9" Mcmillan Hunter's Edge Defiance action Badger M5 bottom(AI mags)
Luck....is the residue of design...
|
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,845
Posts18,517,392
Members74,020
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/group2010001.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/GAPNT308II005.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/200mgroup003.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/surghammer001.jpg)
