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Sorry jimmay another swingandamiss for you, I don't get offended by the psychotic ramblings of some random idiot on the interweb. I do however find your condition highly amusing.
You've taken the "I know you are but what am I" to a whole new level.
PLEASE carry on...
hangunnr Handjobber- You define "random idiot" Funny stuff coming from a "Sticklicker" such as yourself.
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I knew you couldn't pass up another opportunity to showcase your insecurity.
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I knew you couldn't pass up another opportunity to showcase my stupidity.
hangunnr Fixed it for you..
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Your time would be better spent "fixing" the attitude that allows this trash to be put forth... You dumb communist [bleep] sucking BigStick's chorizo fairy azz piling on with six other buddies Did stick really hurt you that bad that you have to resort to this type of response? hangunnr
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you really have lost it man! go take your meds and it'll all be better!
I can't spell... Deal with it...
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Your time would be better spent "fixing" the attitude that allows this trash to be put forth... You dumb communist [bleep] sucking BigStick's chorizo fairy azz piling on with six other buddies Did stick really hurt you that bad that you have to resort to this type of response? hangunnr I call dogpiling [bleep] like you as I see them. Sorry that the truth "offends" you.
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you really have an issue with gay's? did someone touch you inappropriately as a child? it's ok, it wasn't your fault! they have support groups that you can get into!
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I don't think anyone has a beef with John, it is his rifles that people would like to know about. I for one would love to know what makes it a $6000 rig. When anyone with half a brain knows you could have same built for less then half. MCH, Alot of folks seem upset that John has "a" component he is keeping secret, when you say you would love to know what makes it a $6000 rifle,I don't see it as just a "Fact Gathering Event" It's more about telling the maker that his parts aren't worth what he is charging, Most builders will let you know the brand of parts they use in their builds, but not all even Kenny Jarrett kept a few secrets, It's amazing that you guys still hound him on his prices, it seems that you need to be reminded that John is selling a "shooting system" , and we know his components don't add up to 6K , we also know that most barrels can be bought for under $400.00, so is the name of the barrel maker holding you up from buying the system...or is it more about the "TRASHING" of his product....Pretty sure I know the answer!
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Ya know, those that scream homophobic slurs generally have something they're hiding.
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I don't think anyone has a beef with John, it is his rifles that people would like to know about. I for one would love to know what makes it a $6000 rig. When anyone with half a brain knows you could have same built for less then half. MCH, Alot of folks seem upset that John has "a" component he is keeping secret, when you say you would love to know what makes it a $6000 rifle,I don't see it as just a "Fact Gathering Event" It's more about telling the maker that his parts aren't worth what he is charging, Most builders will let you know the brand of parts they use in their builds, but not all even Kenny Jarrett kept a few secrets, It's amazing that you guys still hound him on his prices, it seems that you need to be reminded that John is selling a "shooting system" , and we know his components don't add up to 6K , we also know that most barrels can be bought for under $400.00, so is the name of the barrel maker holding you up from buying the system...or is it more about the "TRASHING" of his product....Pretty sure I know the answer! Good post and exactly what 90% of the idiots on this thread slamming Burns are doing.
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Ya know, those that scream homophobic slurs generally have something they're hiding.
hangunnr Nope. I just dislike dogpiling pedophiles like you, handjobber. Wow, exposed yet another facet of your mindset. I stand by my quote above. hangunnr
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MCH, Alot of folks seem upset that John has "a" component he is keeping secret, when you say you would love to know what makes it a $6000 rifle,I don't see it as just a "Fact Gathering Event" It's more about telling the maker that his parts aren't worth what he is charging, Most builders will let you know the brand of parts they use in their builds, but not all even Kenny Jarrett kept a few secrets, It's amazing that you guys still hound him on his prices, it seems that you need to be reminded that John is selling a "shooting system" , and we know his components don't add up to 6K , we also know that most barrels can be bought for under $400.00, so is the name of the barrel maker holding you up from buying the system...or is it more about the "TRASHING" of his product....Pretty sure I know the answer!
+1 Exactly as I see it.
The Chosin Few November to December 1950, Korea.
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I made the analogy to racing engines before and I believe it to be valid.
I wouldn't care if an engine builder used Venolia or Mahle pistons as long as the engine is the fastest on the track and lasted as long as the other available engines.
Results are far more important to me than components are.
As far as I can tell not a single actual owner of the GB system has complained that it wouldn't do precisely as advertised.
The Chosin Few November to December 1950, Korea.
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Good call on deleting the post, sucks though that it was quoted for all to see what level you operate on.
Have a better day there jimmay, I've got a bedding job to get going on and a little shooting to do.
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What post, handjob???
The one you made up?
Go on to your gay rights parade.
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I made the analogy to racing engines before and I believe it to be valid.
I wouldn't care if an engine builder used Venolia or Mahle pistons as long as the engine is the fastest on the track and lasted as long as the other available engines.
Results are far more important to me than components are.
As far as I can tell not a single actual owner of the GB system has complained that it wouldn't do precisely as advertised. Exactly.
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MCH, Alot of folks seem upset that John has "a" component he is keeping secret, when you say you would love to know what makes it a $6000 rifle,I don't see it as just a "Fact Gathering Event" It's more about telling the maker that his parts aren't worth what he is charging, Most builders will let you know the brand of parts they use in their builds, but not all even Kenny Jarrett kept a few secrets, It's amazing that you guys still hound him on his prices, it seems that you need to be reminded that John is selling a "shooting system" , and we know his components don't add up to 6K , we also know that most barrels can be bought for under $400.00, so is the name of the barrel maker holding you up from buying the system...or is it more about the "TRASHING" of his product....Pretty sure I know the answer!
+1 Exactly as I see it. I don't know why anyone would be so stewed that while it looks that way to you, its not a far stretch that others find it as snake oil price for a "system" one can buy for half the price, and many have, for the same components, that makes some have to "DEFEND" the product. Differing opinions, that's all....don't really know what's up jimmys azz; don't [bleep] care.
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Sometimes we forget a firearm is a pretty good investment regardless. They can last multiple lifetimes. They are not disposable consumables. They are investments in tools that can last. If one were to depreciate the system, it might amount to around $2 per shot if the magnum tube lasted 3K rounds. It would still leave you at the end (after a lot of shooting and possibly a lot of trophies) with the used market value of the components, and re-barreling is not a major overhaul which is unreasonably expensive. A Burns re-tube might be more expensive than other smiths, but he might offer his guarantee extended. Value is where one finds it. Makes the cost of quality ammunition seem small, but one can get much enjoyment from their expenditure. Others can do some of the leg work themselves and build a like performing system for much less cost per shot. That's up to them, and how they value their time. I'll admit I know some folks who could not devote the time to working up loads, collecting dope and learning range. For them, a turnkey system and a Leica rangefinder would be their choice in equipment. All that is left is to practice, and hope they learn the skills necessary to employ the rifle. Many have addressed the individual components, the overall claims and the pricetag, but most folks are not overly critical of the man himself. Seems like a good enough fella to me. Heck, anyone that shoots and shoots well, and is active in the business of shooting has to be a good guy. Anyone here ever bought a boat, or a horse? 
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Nice, a liar too....whoodathunkit...
Pretty low that you'd say something like that in the first place but then you manage to stoop lower by not having the backbone to stand behind it.
PLEASE continue, you got me on the run now...
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Shiite, what did you expect hangunnr?
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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