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Interesting that you get upset when someone calls your rifles junk but it's ok for you to trash another guys product!
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Its camo; I can't even see the scope   Reminds me of every bad hunting show I've ever seen on TV.......
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I'm not the slightest bit upset. Why would I be? I am VERY confident in what my rifles will do. Some jackass on the internet hasn't a chance at changing that constant......
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I' I am VERY confident in what my rifles will do.
Pretty sure John Burns is also!
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For $6k for a $2k rifle, he should be........
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I'm not the slightest bit upset. Why would I be? I am VERY confident in what my rifles will do. Some jackass on the internet hasn't a chance at changing that constant......
You do a poor job at hiding your feelings! 
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You are SO right. Lawtons have set 2 world records now. Greyballs, well maybe a record for the most overpriced POS on the market.......LMAO
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"Trade secrets"........hilarious Really? What�s so hilarious about �Trade secrets�? I think everyone would wonder why they spent so much MONEY for that. Now THAT would be hilarious; the whole get-John-Burns cabal buying his rifles. I�m not sure I would recover from the hysterical laughing fit that would overcome me. I�m laughing my azz off now just thinking about it. Some just don't get it, and that makes it that much more appalling. Some don�t get what? Something only you're privy to? John clearly farms out much of his work(hence the high price tag), and uses whatever custom tube he can get his hands on at the time, as to not be inconvenienced(hence the "secrecy"). Well, you seemed to have uncovered something here. Could you post the proof or a link that verifies your statement? Rifles are "cookie cutter" and load development is minimal to non-existent. Really? Is that how his clients are able to make the shots they make? Non-existent load development? For that matter, how could anyone hit anything with a rifle that is loaded with ammo despite the fact there was no load development? he goes with b&C instead of mcMillan (except for his personal rigs), because turn around time is much faster, and profit margins much fatter. Again, please point out a source other than yourself that verifies your statement. Catering to the ignorant must reap it's rewards, I'll give him that...... Yeah, they must be really ignorant to be able to afford a 6K system and a 60K sheep hunt. If ignorance is the key ingredient there I sure wish I hadn�t gone to school for so damned long. I could have dropped out of high school and I�d be flying around the globe hunting, a man of leisure.
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Your easy..........
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Your easy.......... At least I can spell. Please feel free to show me all of the custom rifles in which you have experience with. Especially the Greyballs in which you know so much about......
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It's not your fault... I'd be pissed too if I was running a Lawton!
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Good comeback. For the defenseless. Show me your custom actions. How many Lawtons have you owned? I'm gussing NONE.
You are just another internet dumbphuck running your mouth about something in which you have NO experience. Put up, or shut up.........
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It's a given that Comedy Schtick is never going to shoot against John. You seem to be spearheading the effort to ruin John's name, how about you shooting against him? I mean, his rifles are POS, and he does little or no load development (according to you). How about it 2muchgun? Are you man enough to back up your mouth? You and Burns, head to head in a 0 to 1000 yard timed event with unknown distance targets, laser rangefinders allowed. Hell, you're shooting equipment that has broken two world records. You should be able to take John to school when it comes to shooting.
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Its camo; I can't even see the scope Reminds me of every bad hunting show I've ever seen on TV....... Until they are all about some dude who shoots everything 1K away....then you don't need it!  There is snake oil on both sides of the gamut, and they are always peddling.....
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Your easy.......... At least I can spell. Try again!
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Price this out and it shoots like this. What more need be said ? (Four in the top hole) Except that a fool and his money etc...... ![[Linked Image]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z231/leadloader/DSCN3039.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z231/leadloader/270group.jpg) Mighty small group. What is the rifle (Caliber, make, model) and the optic? What's the barrel taper and length. Any accurizing work done on it? Bedded?
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Show me your custom actions....
You seen a Lawton before!
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You haven't a clue, and that is obvious.
Pics please.....
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You are SO right. Lawtons have set 2 world records now. 2muchgun, I would not be interested in Lawton at this time with the financial trouble they are in. If it is not resolved, they may not be breaking many records in the future. http://www.rimfiremagic.co.uk/stocks.html
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Yep. Know all about it. It don't change the facts on performance, though, now does it? Worse possible scenario, I'll own a rifle built by a company who went out business that puts a Greyballs to shame. Win/Win. Woe is me..........
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