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No shame in killin any of them, they all eat fine

Minute of deer. That's some awesome shooting;(

And you still don't want to try a little match for a little side money? Even if I give you all the advantages? Come on SwampChicken? Let's break the ice and see what you can do.

I don't want to take your money. You know beyond a shadow of doubt I'm right.

Chicken... As always.

As I mentioned earlier, I have a life. You know I'm right.

My moneys still on Brent

Sometimes, for a "guy" like you, a virtual life of imaginary heroics is all you can hope for. We know you have a pretty miserable existence, and we feel sorry for you (but we won't lose any sleep over it).

See me when you want to back up your BS.

You are a [bleep] cretin.

Bring your inline "zip gun" mounted with ANY brand of match grade iron sights and shoot it any 1,000 yard Black powder muzzle loader match.

You and your inline would get your azzes kicked. Schit, you could use a scope and you'd still get your lame azz handed to you.

What fool would hamstring himself with iron sights. That's for the "traditionalist."

Even the cheapest inline will out shoot a $2000.00 sidelock. I've owned many of both.

Then try to take my money SwampChicken?

My guess is you have owned neither. But certainly not a quality sidelock with good irons.

I hear ya cluckin', and you just laid egg #4580.

I too have a 700ML and love it. It is the most accurate ML that I have owned to date. Cleaning is a little more time consuming, yes, but my 100yd targets look like the ones posted earlier. I limit myself to 225 while hunting with it. Can't imagine what it would do at 1000! Mighty long way for 100gr of 777 and a 250gr Shockwave. Awesome shooting Brent!

The thing I like the most about the 700ML is that it's not fussy and it's easy to load.

I'll agree with that.

You know, there is such a thing as class. It's not enough to just exhibit precision shooting. If two guys are shooting side-by-side, one with a tricked out modern in-line the other with a Gibbs long range target rifle, and they both turned in identical scores, I would applaud the guy shooting the Gibbs because he did it with more than a modicum of class. (I would also shake the hand of the in-line shooter, but I wouldn't applaud his efforts.) A great achievement is sweetened greatly by doing it in style, with class.

Swampy, I'm afraid, has little or no class. Witness his inane trolling on this forum.

have there ever been any inlines that won 1000 yard shooting competitions?

Sorry Swampy but when you have owned/own A White Super 91 and a CVA Apex everything else is a distant second. You can consider those 2 "BEST IN THE WORLD". I am talking about legal Muzzleloader rifles designed for hunting deer from 0-200 yards.

In the class Brent is talking about I doubt they're allowed. Now don't get your shorts all in a wad, it's just that I doubt todays in-lines would meet class criteria. Doesn't matter, it's highly unlikely any of the mass produced in-lines would be remotely competitive with those rifles. They simply won't compare to a Gibbs, Rigby, Wesson or any of the others. It would be akin to expecting one of the old EMF Sharps to compete with a Shiloh or Axtel.

No. Never.

I don't know if they are allowed or not. But the basic fact of life is that a bullet could not care less what sort of action is used to launch it. It only cares that it is launched straight and fast enough (both linearly and rotationally). And the facts are the inlines that SwampChicken claims to have, can't do that. Just cannot.

If you rebarrelled them, no particular reason that they couldn't do that, but as they come out of the box. Not a chance.

And that is why SwampChicken doesn't have a chance in hell. Even if I suck as a Creedmoor shooter, at least my traditional rifles are a few orders of magnitude more accurate than his because they are purpose designed as true LONG RANGE muzzleloaders.

I have seen inlines at Friendship, and I think the rules have been expanded to include them in more events. But the accuracy champs at the longest range (500 yds or 500 m, not sure which) are still the underhammers.

Brent