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#5174104 - 04/23/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: blynyrd]  
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Damn, that Remington catalogue looks like came from the printer yesterday.


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#5433068 - 07/18/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: steve99]  
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Just a quick update, I just put the letter in the mail to Mr. Callahan to get this rifle "lettered" by him. I can't wait to see what he says.

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#5588605 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: blynyrd]  
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I got my letter the other day. Here it is.

So I still don't know if my great grandfather bought it new or not.

I have learned that Ralph (my ggf, pictured) was a carpenter for the D&H railroad before he bought our farm, from his sister in law, in 1920. And that he, at least once, traveled out west, when this picture was taken in Los Angeles. He was born in 1880 so this trip must have occurred somewhere around the turn of the century.

I can't help but wonder if there's a chance he picked up this 1899C on that trip, but it seems like it will be hard to determine.

I've been trying to find out what I can about Simmon's Hardware in St. Louis and have learned that they were a large retailer back in the day, but so far I can find no links that may lead to their old sales records.

Anyhow, here's another letter on another fine old rifle to add to the (impressive) knowledge base you all have here.

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Savage 1899 letter 1a.jpg (589 downloads)
0829112035.jpg (179 downloads)

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#5588789 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: blynyrd]  
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I've got guns listed to Simmons as well and I live in Canada. I believe Simmons was an outlet or something and that the guns were shipped there and from there out to retailers. Just to many guns are listed to them and i doubt that many people drove or took a horse all across North America to buy a Savage from them.


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#5589155 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: mad_dog]  
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Simmons Hardware: "The company is wholesale and retail dealer in hardware, cutlery, sporting goods, harness, etc. and also manufacturers of harness, saddlery, athletic goods, pocket cutlery, etc."

Looks to have been a very large company, saw mention of offices in New York, Philadelphia, Minneapolis. Might have received all goods at their main warehouse in St. Louis and then sent them off to side offices elsewhere.

Thanks for the info on the letter!

#5589166 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: mad_dog]  
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I don't know Joe. St. Louis was a BIG city and a thriving metropolis at the turn of the century. They hosted the World's Fair in 1904. It was still the gateway to the west. Simon's may have been filling orders for shops further west but I would not be surprised if they were selling them in St. Louis. (maybe to travelers headed west)

Simon's does not show up as often as a few others from what I can recall... E.K. Tyrons (sp??) and what was that shop out west that stamped their name on the bottom of every barrel. I have seen a few pages of ledger and they seem to show up a lot.


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#5589298 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: blynyrd]  
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Brian, thank for posting the letter.

I noticed that the elevator in the rear sight of your rifle is in backwards. You might want to correct that so it doesn't come out and get lost. smile


Savage...never say "never".
Rick...

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#5589477 - 09/05/11 Re: Savage model 1893? 1895? 1899? [Re: Rick99]  
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Originally Posted by Rick99
Brian, thank for posting the letter.

I noticed that the elevator in the rear sight of your rifle is in backwards. You might want to correct that so it doesn't come out and get lost. smile


You noticed that, too. I saw it in the pictures and fixed it after I took them, thanks.

While we're at it here's a little eye candy. I was down at dad's place all week helping him after his hip replacement surgery and asked if I could play with his guns.

[Linked Image]
Pic 1, top to bottom:

Savage 23D, .22 Hornet (This has been my favorite rifle since I was old enough to shoot, and the pic doesn't do it justice it's in terrific shape)

Henry Repeating Arms H001v "Varmint Express", .17HMR (His newest acquisition, nice little rifle)

Winchester 74, .22LR (My favorite squirrel rifle while growing up on the farm.)

[Linked Image]
Pic 2, top to bottom

Winchester '92 SRC, .25-20 WCF (Beautiful piece of history, unfortunately the bore is wore slap out.)

Savage 775A, 12G. (Evidently my family likes Savages)

Remington Model 24, .22S (with Lyman tang site cool)


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0829111838aw.jpg (1095 downloads)
Last edited by blynyrd; 09/05/11.

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