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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
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Nobody's disputing the fact that you must hunt where they live. I'm disputing the fact that you said and believe that's all there is to it,


No, I said if you are good at mulie hunting, then the size is luck. Either you are a good hunter, in a good area, or not. I consider myself a good mulie hunter, and I have hunted places that I could only find a 2 point.


If the big bucks were there then luck is the only factor....................huh? wink



Not exactly the way you said it in the first place, but whatever.

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Don't buy into the hype. There is nothing to know about "big mule deer" other than the units that hold those deer.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider


If the big bucks were there then you weren't good enough, huh?



No, there were no big bucks there...some units are just piss poor, no matter how you spin it.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Big mule deer bucks are dumb...they always stop and look back at you before they go over the ridge....grin!

Seriously, the good big buck hunters I know and hunt with either kill hogs or nothing at all. They have standards and stick with them...and that means coming home empty handed way more than killing one. I would rather hunt an area that has one B&C buck per 200,000 acres than a place thats stacked full of 150 and 160" bucks.


Amen, amen and amen!

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Let's be realistic...200,000 acres and only one good buck? No thanks. Chances are, if there are a ton of 160 bucks in a unit, there are a more than a few whoppers sneaking around too. Unless there is absolutely garbage genetics in that area.

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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Chances are, if there are a ton of 160 bucks in a unit, there are a more than a few whoppers sneaking around too. Unless there is absolutely garbage genetics in that area.


Ever heard of the Bookcliff's?..

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Originally Posted by JGRaider

There are some awfully big bucks that are only seen for a two week period during the rut. I'm continually amazed that we can ride around with the ranch foreman around Christmas and see this played out time and time again. He's out feeding cattle everyday, and he never sees any of the big, big bucks except then.


Here's one example some of you guys have seen here before...Christmas 2009


Than again Christmas 2010.......this is the same buck I believe all broken up obviously. You only see this buck during the rut, and he lives there. This pic is within 1/2 mile of where the video was shot.....an enormous bodied buck.
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Chances are, if there are a ton of 160 bucks in a unit, there are a more than a few whoppers sneaking around too. Unless there is absolutely garbage genetics in that area.


Ever heard of the Bookcliff's?..


I am not a Utard, dohhhh! cool

PS: Nice buck above, but he wouldn't score dick.

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Not a real good picture of a buck(2006)I tried to kill for four years. He had a 185" frame with a long drop tine coming off his left main beam, plus he had a few extras that came off his right back fork...200"+ easy. This pic was taken the first week in September. I never saw him again that year, not even during the rut. The next year I also saw him during bow season and then again in December. He looked the same as the year before but maybe a little more mass. In 2008 he showed up during the rut and I got a real good look at him with my Zeiss spotter from about 1/2 mile away.The drop tine was broken off about 4" below the main beam, but he was still a giant and probably would have netted 195" as a typical even with a bunch of deduct points. He knew I was there and after a few minutes, vacated his does and left the country.I spent the next five days looking for him but came up empty. In 2009 I shot a slick 4X4 with good forks that went in the high 190's....I always felt guilty for not holding out for the drop tine buck that year. Last fall I saw him again in mid October while out antelope hunting. He was heavy, but shrunken down from old age.He still had the dropper and the extra's on his forks. He was running with a big 4X4 with good eyeguards that would have gone 190. I saw the 190 after the season ended, but never saw the dropper again. If he's still around he has to be at least 10 years old....talk about a survivor....I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking about him.

I've only hunted mule deer in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho and most of them have been on general seasons and public land. Mule deer bucks that have been hunted hard in general seasons are almost like an entirely different species...especially here in Montana where the rifle season stays open for five weeks and runs right through the rut.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223

PS: Nice buck above, but he wouldn't score dick.


You're really on your game aren't you ? As I said, every point he has is broken off.


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Great pic Scenar....dogcatcher would have kicked his azz though..... smile


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This angle shows the "dropper"...he was just out of velvet with reddish antlers..main beams were probably 27".


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Great pic Scenar....dogcatcher would have kicked his azz though..... smile


He'd a passed a dink like that up!... crazy

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I have shed antlers from this buck starting in 2003(one side),2004(one side),2005(one side). He was killed in November 2006 during the rut and not far from a county road in a huge block of public land that gets pisspounded daily for five weeks every year. I saw this buck on the hoof in January of 2006, picked up his right antler that spring and never did come up with the other side. I spent a total of 22 days looking for him that summer and never got my eye on him....a hunter from Western Montana killed him.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
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There are some awfully big bucks that are only seen for a two week period during the rut. I'm continually amazed that we can ride around with the ranch foreman around Christmas and see this played out time and time again. He's out feeding cattle everyday, and he never sees any of the big, big bucks except then.


Here's one example some of you guys have seen here before...Christmas 2009


Than again Christmas 2010.......this is the same buck I believe all broken up obviously. You only see this buck during the rut, and he lives there. This pic is within 1/2 mile of where the video was shot.....an enormous bodied buck.
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This angle shows the "dropper"...he was just out of velvet with reddish antlers..main beams were probably 27".



What a deer! To me, there is nothing better than a big ole mature mule deer buck

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Flinch, is your head buried in the sand? whistle

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Scenarshooter, just for gits and shiggles, how about posting a picture of that huge typical you killed a couple years ago? One of the prettiest bucks I've ever seen!

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Is this the one you mean?

My buddy, Owen holding it up. If he had not forgot his license that morning, he would have shot it.

He needed some mass and eyeguards. I should get him mounted someday.


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That's him. Great buck!

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