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You must have forgotten about the Gracie clan for the past 25 years.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Those 5th, 6th and 7th degree black belts, that want to compete, are now training in MMA. They're not getting their asses beat by brawlers any longer. A brawler would last as long as it took the ref to run over and pull the MMA fighter off of the beer-joint hero before what few brain cells he had left oozed out of his ears.
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You must have forgotten about the Gracie clan for the past 25 years. Remind me when the last time a Gracie won a UFC fight!
Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
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Got his arse kicked by Hughs
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Go back and read how I stated "discipline" not "disciplines".....it became readily apparent that black belts in any ONE discipline meant jack shi! in the ring....those board breaking SOB's didn't amount to squat in the ring.
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Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
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You must have forgotten about the Gracie clan for the past 25 years. Remind me when the last time a Gracie won a UFC fight! Remind me of a family that's won more fights, period. I'm mainly referring to the early years, like he was.
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Yes but would he use a Nightforce on a.......never mind.
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Lots of those guys look really good with all their athletic moves until they get punched in the face for the first time in their lives.
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Remind me when the last Gracie was in a UFC event? Oh and again remind me when one has won!
Sure they had a good run in the beginnings of the sport, there was no where near the numbers of talanted fighters there are now. Bottomline is Gracie Jujitsu isn't feared by anyone any more.
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Lots of those guys look really good with all their athletic moves until they get punched in the face for the first time in their lives. I'm the first one to agree with you guys on all that. The statement I referred to was itself referring to the early days of UFC, or at least that's the way I read it. That's why I said what I said about the Gracie's. That's all there is to it from my limited perspective. I personally could give a ratsazz if UFC even existed.
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It's what the NASCAR guys watch in the off season...........
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Go back and read how I stated "discipline" not "disciplines".....it became readily apparent that black belts in any ONE discipline meant jack shi! in the ring....those board breaking SOB's didn't amount to squat in the ring. I take it you aren't a martial artist of any kind.
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Don't get me started on NASCAR. Those wussies really need to learn how to fight. And people have the nerve to call those drivers athletes?
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Bout as exciting as watching a chess match.
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Lots of those guys look really good with all their athletic moves until they get punched in the face for the first time in their lives. I'm the first one to agree with you guys on all that. The statement I referred to was itself referring to the early days of UFC, or at least that's the way I read it. That's why I said what I said about the Gracie's. That's all there is to it from my limited perspective. I personally could give a ratsazz if UFC even existed. JG, you are correct and the Gracie's did slip my mind.....my point was that a lot of black belts in a lot of disciplines had a rude awakening when it came down to the real thing and no amount of board breaking saved them from an ass whoopin....so, while I agree with Magnum about not letting the looks of someone lull you into thinking they are a pushover, they better be able to do more then break a few boards and give a round house kick to the face if'n they think since their belt is black the world is their punching bag. oh and, no Nightforce or belts here.
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Right on Dreamin'. I personally don't know enough about it to have even offered a reply if we're being brutally honest. Didn't mean to derail your point.
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Ya know J.G., the person I want most to meet, face to face, is Steelhead. I really look forward to that day. I can feel it; God is going to put the two of us in very close proximity (within kicking distance) in the next year. I wonder what he'll have to say then? Is daddy paying for that trip too?
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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The amount of training, and athletic ability needed to break three 2x6x18 long boards after jumping 8 to 10 feet is phenomenal. The first time I broke two boards I didn't even feel the boards as they broke. Lately, I train MMA style fighting because the vast majority of martial arts disciplines don't teach any grappling. I know from repeated experience that 90% of fights end up with the combatants rolling around on the ground. That gets tiring really fast. If you were ever a wrestler, you know how tiring that kind oof fighting is. The guy that is training me is Vincent Fields. Google him; he's about 6'4", goes about 275 right now. He won the amateur MMA heavy weight world championship 5 or 6 years ago. Vinne is the real deal. I've never felt so helpless at the hands of someone else ever. But I'm learning grappling techniques to make an opponent in the ring tap out. The techniques work just as well on the street (unless you've got someone really jacked up on a substance).
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