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I just got some old Nosler Partitions. I don't have any idea how old but the box is a faded yellow. Were the older Partitions of similar quality as the bullets manufactured now? Thanks.
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I've got some, too. They look like they were turned. IIRC they're pretty good. Mine are 85 gr. .243's and will be tried shortly in a new .240 Wby., HS Precision rifle I've just acquired. It will be interesting to shoot them side by side with current Nosler NP production. I'll post the results.
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There is a prominent step around the area that you would crimp, if you were crimping them. Is that what you mean when you say they were "turned"? Thanks DF.
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They're good. I was given a couple boxes of 175 gr. 7mm. Work just as good as the new partitions.
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Nosler partitions "the" original better bullet. They're still made the way they used to be. Have used them since the late 50s, and always have worked. Some claim one of the other parition type bullets better penetration wise, but I've never wanted for penetration. On an Eland, I hit it behind the left side ribs, it was going slightly L-R, and the bullet went from the rear of the ribs to the right front shoulder. Can't ask for more..this was with a 30/06 and a 165gr partition in front of 60grs of IMR 4350.
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Nosler partitions "the" original better bullet. They're still made the way they used to be. Have used them since the late 50s, and always have worked. Some claim one of the other parition type bullets better penetration wise, but I've never wanted for penetration. On an Eland, I hit it behind the left side ribs, it was going slightly L-R, and the bullet went from the rear of the ribs to the right front shoulder. Can't ask for more..this was with a 30/06 and a 165gr partition in front of 60grs of IMR 4350. That's a pretty damn stout load (around 3 grains over book max).
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Nosler partitions "the" original better bullet. They're still made the way they used to be. Have used them since the late 50s, and always have worked. Some claim one of the other parition type bullets better penetration wise, but I've never wanted for penetration. On an Eland, I hit it behind the left side ribs, it was going slightly L-R, and the bullet went from the rear of the ribs to the right front shoulder. Can't ask for more..this was with a 30/06 and a 165gr partition in front of 60grs of IMR 4350. That's a pretty damn stout load (around 3 grains over book max). For fun, I'll bet the rifle was a pre 64 M70....  I have used up a pile of the old screw machine partitions,and still have 300-400 of the 130 270's.I use them in a pre 64 with 61 gr H4831 and they have shot fine.Killed stuff with them too;also have used the 150 gr 30's and 140 gr 7mm's on game. They work good!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Nosler partitions "the" original better bullet. They're still made the way they used to be. Have used them since the late 50s, and always have worked. Some claim one of the other parition type bullets better penetration wise, but I've never wanted for penetration. On an Eland, I hit it behind the left side ribs, it was going slightly L-R, and the bullet went from the rear of the ribs to the right front shoulder. Can't ask for more..this was with a 30/06 and a 165gr partition in front of 60grs of IMR 4350. That's a pretty damn stout load (around 3 grains over book max). For fun, I'll bet the rifle was a pre 64 M70.... I have used up a pile of the old screw machine partitions,and still have 300-400 of the 130 270's.I use them in a pre 64 with 61 gr H4831 and they have shot fine.Killed stuff with them too;also have used the 150 gr 30's and 140 gr 7mm's on game. They work good! I like the "old style' partitions and so does my BSA model D. When I run across them at yard sales or estate sales, I buy them up fast  . They are getting nearly impossible to find anymore though. For fun Bob, I don't think I'd run that load in any of my pre 64's
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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fellas, I picked up a box of 200 grn. round nose Partitions for my aught six's use. when you suspect these to be last made? think my pre-64 is gonna like these.
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bsa I agree but I'll spin a tale that involved a pre 64 FW 30/06....not mine,a pal's,and he did the load workup...he wound up with exactly the same load the gentleman obove quoted....velocity was 2975 or so fps. Turns out, upon slugging the tube,that it was a thou or two oversized through the grooves (yes it shot fine which accounts for the slightly heavier charges.The load was well behaved,and we are used to seeing 2900 or so from a 30/06 with 165's....so we are not real far out of whack. More pre 64 barrels are a bit oversized than we would think....I have had a couple that were that way.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I'm working off the top of my head on the actual load, and 40 years ago, when this shot taken, it might not have been a stout load in the books..will have to check my notes from then, but believe that was it, and was in the book.
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I just checked the latest Hodgdon reloading pages , on line, and it shows 60grs of IMR 4350 with the 165gr Sie, at 57k psi, and "compressed". IMR the ONLY 4350 out in 1972. Safari notes are on a book shelf I can't get to right now. The rifle being used was a Rem 700..
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The old screw machine (turned in a lathe) NPT bullets test better on the Juenke machine than any other bullet I have run. They were very well made bullets... and the process was too expensive to continue.
Performance is still just C&C and they were not bonded back then IIRC.
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Performance of a Partition is not "just C&C". Stop trolling that tired bait around.
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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ghost thanks for looking that up. My pal was not too far off in load work....I did not realize Sierra ever listed that hot a load. Interesting!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Not the greatest photo, but here you can see the marks on the old Nosler Partition (bottom bullet) vs the smoother look of the newer bullets: ![[Linked Image]](http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k129/GuyMiner/hunting%20photos/equipment/IMG_3496.jpg) 300 gr .375's I remember the old Partitions shot okay, but the newer ones are very accurate! Guy
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Guy I recall I used that screw machine 270 gr partition for my first Brown Bear...it worked well.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The older, screw-machine bullets seemed less accurate to me than the newer, impact-extrusion bullets.
Both varieties kill stuff just fine.
Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.
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bsa I agree but I'll spin a tale that involved a pre 64 FW 30/06....not mine,a pal's,and he did the load workup...he wound up with exactly the same load the gentleman obove quoted....velocity was 2975 or so fps. Turns out, upon slugging the tube,that it was a thou or two oversized through the grooves (yes it shot fine which accounts for the slightly heavier charges.The load was well behaved,and we are used to seeing 2900 or so from a 30/06 with 165's....so we are not real far out of whack. More pre 64 barrels are a bit oversized than we would think....I have had a couple that were that way. Veddy interesting. I usually run 56-57 grains in my pre 64's (actually all of my 30-06's). I get my best accuracy around that charge weight. For a partition though my reloading guide number 4 lists 57 as max, but your know how that goes
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I checked my old Nosler Reloading Manual Number One and for the 165 grain Spitzer Partition in the 30-06 they list a maximum load of 57/IMR-4350 for 2,832 FPS. They also show the 165 grain Partition in front of 60/H-205 for 2,968 FPS. For "Test Conditions" they used a Ruger 77, 22" barrel, 1-10" twist, Remington 9 1/2 primer in Remington cases, range temperature 72 degrees. ![[Linked Image]](http://dogsdoom.com/PI/nosler-1976.jpg)
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