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Witch one of thees bullets is the toughest/has hightest weight retention - Hornady InterBond, SST, Nosler AccuBond, Swift Scirocco II? MV should be around 3,100-3,200fps.
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Nosler Accubond has my vote..
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Nosler Accubond has my vote.. +1
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I'm a Scirocco whore myself...
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SST isn't a Bonded bullet.
I shot a couple of 30 cal 180 IBs and AB into water jugs and I thought that the IB looked tougher. I can't say it was a detailed test more like one observation
Like more than a few folks here, I have had no problem to get AB's to shoot well but IB's haven't been as easy to get to shoot for me. (sample of one, those 30 cal 180's)
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Except for the SST's, whichever shoots the best in Your rifle will do fine.
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Nosler Accubond has my vote.. Yea, I would have to go with this one!
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NAB, The IB and SS are finicky as heck to find accuracy. I've tried the SSs in some rifles that shoot dang near anything great and never found acceptable accuracy(.257 100s, 150 .284, and 180 .308). I like the SS design, but they went wrong somewhere.
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I use the Accubonds� but they are made to shed some weight.
The question is� what type or animal are you hunting and at what range?
If you want 100% retention�
You may want to try a Monolithic bullet like Barns, Horn GMX, or Nosler eTip.
You May want to post this in the �Ask The Gun Writers� Forum
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As a rule, bonded core bullets spread widely and don't penetrate as much as other premiums due to this. In spite of the fact that they retain lots of weight. The only bonded core bullet I'm aware of that penetrates similar to the Nosler Partition or close to the Barnes stuff would be the Federal Throphy Bonded. And that is the older, not the latest version. E
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I'm a Scirocco whore myself... You plunk any wapiti with a 130 6.5 version my friend?
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I've shot quite a few deer and an elk with the Hornady Interbond.I have yet to recover one of these bullets.They shoot really tight in my rifles and penetrate much better than the Accubond,that is a good bullet too,but it is designed to shed quite a bit of it's weight.The Interbond probably would be better compared to the Scirocco than the Accubond.
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I'm a Scirocco whore myself... You plunk any wapiti with a 130 6.5 version my friend? I've killed truck loads with the 6.5 SS... They always do what they need to do... I'm using the 75 gr in .224, 130's in 6.5 and 180's in .308... Gonna try the 150's in a 7mm-08 that I bought from some guy on here this year... I'm sure they will work well like all the others...
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Well two of the three you just mentioned will be used this year....
Exits and cartridge with the 130 SII?
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Nosler Accubond gets my vote. Very reliable bullet. The Scirocco never did much for me.
I've killed about 10 elk over the years with the Accubond and wouldn't change a thing.
I doubt anybody has killed "Truck Loads" of wapiti. Especially with Scirocco's.
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Have had trouble getting the scirocco's to shoot, so I never shot anything with them. They do look EVIL though. My vote goes to Interbonds. T.S.
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Witch one of thees bullets is the toughest/has hightest weight retention - Hornady InterBond, SST, Nosler AccuBond, Swift Scirocco II? MV should be around 3,100-3,200fps. In testing in my .25-06, the toughest/highest retained weight as originally asked would be as follows: SII=HIB at 85+% retained in deer, Bullet Test Tube and dry journals, NAB at around 65% retention. The SST is not a bonded bullet and therefore showed less retained weight than the NAB. HIB=SII>NAB>>SST is the order in my experience with the .25-06 at 3100-3400fps.
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I've had great results with Interbonds on deer and elk, but wouldn't hesitate to use Accubonds either because of all the good reviews they get here. I've actually had trouble getting the Sciriccos to shoot decent out of my rifle.
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Agreed that my own choice is the Accubond; agreed also with those who point out the Accubond by design sheds weight and so disagree with any who think the Accubond is the answer to the question as asked.
Then too my preferred elk rifle is a .375 bore with the 260 grain Accubond at nothing like the speed indicated by the OP. For the indicated speeds my preferred bullet is the Barnes MRX in 308 which both benefits from and can use the speeds indicated.
To the question as asked I'd suspect the Hornady or the Scirroco. On the other hand lacking wide experience,
-I'm inclined to be a good enough is good enough type along with using enough gun and not asking a cartridge to punch above its weight (and these days cartridges can reach higher than they did when I formed my ideas and experience)
I'm inclined to suspect the question is asking for deeper penetration and a bullet that retains 100% of its as loaded weight while assuming the shape of a round ball will certainly disrupt tissue for so far as it goes but may stop sooner than a long shank as is typical forex of the monolithic bullets.
The only person I've known at all well who has killed truckloads of game did so working for the govt and used mostly military ball - placement will always work.
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