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Hillbillybear, Thank you for the compliment, that Hurt and Hurt is pretty awsome, as well. Lots of similarities between your gun and mine with all of the D-T stuff.
BSA and Oregon45, nice hunting rigs there, too! If that model 30 was not collector pristine, I would have a chambering reamer at the ready! Cool gun anyway.
When mine was a 'mere' 30/06 (original barrel, til I wore it out) and later a 300 WBY it and I took game from all over in factory ammo capable guise as well. Bull ELk, Black Bear, a truckload of deer, even a few varmints along the way.
Great custom rifle basis, in my view.
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I once saw one rebarreled to 223 many years ago. WOW! That one begs the question, WHY? I have seriously considered leaving mine .30-06, but never thought of rebarreling it to a short action cartridge, much less a true small bore. Given that, I bet you could watch your hits 'cause the thing wouldn't move in recoil! Ed
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It was a heavy barrel with the original stock, and had a block in the magazine to make it a single shot. Have also encountered a couple in 22-250.
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A 1917 in 223.... Wrong at SO many levels. Sigh.
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It had to be a labor of love. Slightly off topic, but I once saw an Arisaka that had been rebarreled to 257WBY.
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Well, that woud be an UGLY 257WBY, but it makes sense from a purely utilitarian POV. Those Jap actions are certainly strong enough.
Back on topic, There are lots of nice big bores out there on 1917's. I hope the OP goes to at least a 300 H&H with his. To go less would be a cryin shame and waste of action length capabilities. Just a down right shame.
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404 Jeffery would be my choice if converting to a magnum bolt face.
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A Great old cartridge, but kinda short for that action, though. It would work, just like a 35 Whelen or other medium length round would work. I still vote 416 Rigby if going Ele class. If not going really big, then 375 H&H, 375WBY, or one of the STW or RUM rounds. If using the stock that is with it,set up for irons, then 375 and up makes the most sense from here.
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The 416 Rigby on a 1917 has the O'Connor connection, which is not to be underestimated. In fact, that might sway me to the 416 entirely. I can always have a 404 on a Mauser, as the rifle-gods intended
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IMO the best use for a Enfield is to do a 416 Rigby ala Tom Burgess style...
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I have two, a 300 WBY and 30-06. I had to modify the feed rails with a ball mill to get it to feed 300 WBY cases to my satisfaction. It was utterly reliable until I broke the stock! I have a new stock that Mel Smart glued up for me that I need to finish and drop it in. I am thinking about a new barrel in 375 H&H or 375 WBY at the same time though!
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375 would be ok, I'd not go smaller on this action though, but that's just me and my ways.
A friend here inherited one, and he's thinking about 375 as he's not overly crazy about the 416 Rigby.
Guess B&C makes a handle for the Enfield, might turn it into a yote rifle yet...grin
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Steelhead, I luv you man. I enjoy sticking a burr up your azz occasionally. Wakes you up from your dreamland. I do agree that a CZ550 may be cheaper and I do have one in 458 Lott. But after buying good bottom metal, 3 pos safety, trigger, and straightening the threads you will have a sum of money in the 550. Butch
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Sorry for digging up an old thread. Ed too many letters, what became of your model 1917 ?
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Always liked the old Enfield 17!
Hang a pic if it ever got finished!
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I have 1917s in 25-06, 30-06, and a single shot .220 Swift. My question is "What publication and date had the article about O'Connor's .416 build by Al Biesen with a low power Weaver on the 1917?" This gun is not pictured or mentioned in the Jack O'Connor book for some reason.
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I have had a couple, one was a .333 OKH Belted built by Charlie O’Neil. I had another with a Buhmiller Barrel, it was a 22-250. I gave it to DesertMuleDeer. He is turning it into a 416 Rigby.
Who made the most desirable 1917, Winchester, Remington or Eddystone?
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Most that I know said that the Rem. was. The eddystone as I recall had a cutout in the rear bridge that was unsightly.
I have had some of all of them and find no difference in function. All worked well and shot well.
The only one I still have is a Rem. and has always been a .75 inch rifle with 180 grain loads.
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