This is horrible.I have a special place in my heart for Smoke Pole...The man loves to argue and doesn't cross the line often and offers examples and proof of his endeavors unlike some trolls that only want to argue and put down.
That's what it is all about rather than getting down in the dirt calling names and not offering any evidence of even being an outdoors man/hunter rather wanting to act like a troll just spitting out high school dribble.
So Smoke..I really don't care how much a rifle weighs,I do care how it handles/comes to my pull for quick shot and of course,accuracy.I don't have or shoot wild cats or custom rifles.The closest thing to a custom is my pre-'64 270 Winchester thats weighs in naked over 8lbs but I dress it and the weight I could care less about,because that puppy fits me as well as any rifle I own.
To end this...I really don't care what a rifle weighs if I like it and it fits me and get this...I don't publically complain about 16 ounces of anything bothering me..Chit...A camera weighs how much on average and I don't own one.
How many items in a guys pack does he use on every trip?I take what I need and only that and I think after over 50 years of hunting Elk,I have an idea what I need and don't need.....
Jayco
I feel that you boast and antagonize a bit too much. Maybe you could try getting along with others instead of calling them out?
That doesn't make any sense. If there'd been anyone there to take pictures I wouldn't have been trying to load that stupid bovine into the truck *by myself*, would I? And if there had been someone else there, and they'd been taking pictures instead of pitching in to get the work done, I'd have been pretty pissed.
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Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
That doesn't make any sense. If there'd been anyone there to take pictures I wouldn't have been trying to load that stupid bovine into the truck *by myself*, would I? And if there had been someone else there, and they'd been taking pictures instead of pitching in to get the work done, I'd have been pretty pissed.
Perhaps it was the 'lacy panties' that he was asking for a pic of.
I have blackbelts in 2 styles of martial arts and trained extensively in boxing and kickboxing. I know and have trained with a number of very tough and very accomplished fighters. One thing I have noticed is that the toughest, baddest, and most physically capable guys are the ones that don't go around saying how tough they are. In my experience, the guys that say how tough they are are the first ones to get their ass handed to them.
You are a passive-aggressive old prick that has a lot of self-esteem issues. You bring absolutely nothing to the Campfire. Just my opinion.
"I am at heart a meat hunter." John Barsness, The Life of the Hunt
Go back and quote me where I said I was tough...Please quote me where I said I was tough..I said my boys are,and they are..
Your the one posting how tough you are,not me.
Since we are on an elk hunting forum,give us a quick run down on your elk hunting experiences and how rifle weight effects you hunting Elk.Is 16 ounces of rifle weight a determining factor in you choosing a firearm to hunt with.
I will bet atleast 75% of the whiners about rifle weight,have never been in the military where they make men out of boys.Benning sure changed my way of life at 17.
I mean were not talking tons of weight,just 16 ounces and it breaks a hunt to some!!!!Sad....
Yet your in shape?
Do you think weight or boot choice matters to these guys that are in shape?
Jayco
Weight of gear matters so much to these guys that millions and millions of your taxpayer dollars just to shave fractions of ounces from each little piece of gear. Lots of folks have served the armed forces. I thought boot camp was superfun. You didn't learn much. http://www.soldiermod.com/volume-5/mers.html
Really...How far have you packed an M-1 at 9.5 lbs as Military Issue?
I learned alot,it seems you didn't..If you want to talk trash,take it somewhere else,if you want to talk elk hunting,let's talk.
You tell me how 16 ounces of rifle/scope/sling weight effects you at the end of the day compared to what you take along with it on your back or around your neck and which is more important,stuff you don't need or your rifle?.
I looked up logcutter on urban dictionary. Closest I could find was logsplitter. My children refer to them as special needs..
You apparently have no clue about logging..A logcutter is a person whom falls tree's/limbs them and cut's them to length as he goes,one tree at a time, leaving only logs ready to be skidded and loaded,not tree length un-limbed tree's as some do.
It was more work but more money than the way alot of them do it now.
Really...How far have you packed an M-1 at 9.5 lbs as Military Issue?
I learned alot,it seems you didn't..If you want to talk trash,take it somewhere else,if you want to talk elk hunting,let's talk.
You tell me how 16 ounces of rifle/scope/sling weight effects you at the end of the day compared to what you take along with it on your back or around your neck.
Jayco
I couldn't teach you how to hunt elk, mostly because you're old and dumb. If you can't remember that NOBODY in boot camp wanted to carry the heaviest stuff, you've killed a lot of brain cells since then - that is if you ever had any. At the end of the day, when you are wiped out from doing more than sitting in a saddle, lightening your load makes a difference. It's why there's a lot of money being dumped into shaving the weight from military equipment.
For what it's worth, I've carried an M60 machine gun with ammo, and a full ruck for 12 miles one day, which was absolute child's play to the stuff I've encountered while hunting elk and other things..
I looked up logcutter on urban dictionary. Closest I could find was logsplitter. My children refer to them as special needs..
You apparently have no clue about logging..A logcutter is a person whom falls tree's/limbs them and cut's them to length as he goes,one tree at a time, leaving only logs ready to be skidded and loaded,not tree length un-limbed tree's as some do.
It was more work but more money than the way alot of them do it now.
Jayco
Awesome funny. www.urbandictionary.com search on logsplitter. You're the butt of a joke you don't understand which is nothing new.
I think the M60 with a can of belted ammo is over 30lbs.. could be wrong, but I do remember it wasn't something I'd want to carry elk hunting. Though it might be fun to set up on a hillside with one and get the orange glow going.
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