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I talked to her yesterday.

No clue how close Lodi is to Madison... Janesville wasn't that close either IIRC, but we were younger and traveled and drank while in school a bit.... Damn sure wouldn't waste time like that these days either!

Have a blast!

Jeff

Any Texans better bring parkas. Could be cold next week.

What are you expecting for temps... 70's?

You guys better expect rain - we got a bunch more than I expected, but we were all carrying rain gear.

I am not familiar with F-class shooting so if any of you happen to care to describe the match a bit, I'd appreciate it. How many shots per distance? How many relays? How much time per relay? Sighters? Do you shoot 1200 or just 800, 900, 1000? Or? I'm sure it is very different than what we do.

I don't know. What DO you do? Give us a frame of refenrece? Are you a ballet shooter?

Three matches at 600 yards Tuesday. Fifteen shots per match, unlimited sighters for match #1, match 2&3 are two sighters only. Wednesday and friday are the same format except both days are 1000 yard matches. Think the 600 'match is 17 minutes, have to check on the 1000 matches. You also get a 3 minute prep time to get set up on the firing line

We shoot NRA-BPTR Creedmoor. That is black-powder cartridge (or muzzleloading) rifles. Iron sights and .45 caliber rifles predominate though some .40s show up and a rare .50. There can be a scope class, but I don't think anyone brought one last weekend. The rifles are mostly replicas of Sharps, Winchester 85's Ballards, rolling blocks and the odd Borchardt or two. We fire three relays at each of three distances - 8, 9, 1000. Each relay is 35 minutes with unlimited sighters followed by 10 shots for record.

FWIW, I just calculate that I launched just over 9 lbs of lead/tin alloy last weekend.

Didn't carry a parka to Alaska the last two weeks, but then again it never got below the teens at night....

LOL Jeff. NOAA is forcasting some sun and lo to mid 70 high temps thru wednesday.

I am not familiar with that shooting discipline, but I have a great deal of respect for the long range black powder shooters. That is one of the few areas of shooting that has never held any attraction for me, black powder. But I am impressed by what those shooters can do.

I think you got a good idea of F-class from AJ300mag's post. I think the only flavor it might have lacked was an idea of the target size. The 600 and 1000 yard targets have X-rings of about 0.5 MOA, the 10-Ring is 1MOA and so on. I have no clue what the size of your targets is, but irrespective of that, I still think you guys are awesome.

In a 2-day match, such as TSRA, I would only propel about 3.5 pounds of jacketed lead to the target. I'll probably launch about 6 pounds or maybe a little more next week.

That's a lot more lead than I thought you would shoot in those matches given the tiny size of those mosquito bullets

Our targets are much larger. The x-ring is 10" or a little less than one MOA at 1000, and the 10-ring is 20".

We go get one luxury - the ability to shoot and then roll over to the scope and wait for the dust splash when the bullet arrives at the target about 3.5 seconds later.

It's all fun, that's for sure.

Ok, so you are using the standard LR-1 targets. Those rings are 4 times the size of the F-class rings in area.

My .308 bullets take a shade ove 1.6 seconds to get to 1000 yards. I get to see the target go down in my riflescope.

It is indeed a lot of fun.

Gosh, I didn't buy my winter wardrobe yet. Better get to the store before Saturday morning departure time.

Well, that's only fair! Our bullets are 4 times the size of yours

1.6 seconds? Longer than I thought.

At some ranges - mostly north facing ranges - we get to actually watch our bullets. Not the vapor trail, but the actual bullet. Of course, even those big rocks disappear about 1/2 way down the range as they become smaller in the distance. Still cool to see them arching along - 40 ft above the line of sight.

That's not riflery, that's artillery!

The apex of my .308 bullets' trajectory is about 8 feet or so for 1000 yards. The club to which I belong has its range facing north and we can see the trace, but not the bullets.

So, does your bullet actually punch the paper or does it stick to the target? What kind of velocity does your bullet have at the target? My MV is a shade under 2900FPS and my calculated velocity at the 1000 yard target is about 1550FPS.

I hope somebody on the forum wins the rest top and FClass base that I donated.
Butch

I'd love to win either, Butch! I've been an admirer of your products for a while now. And THANK YOU for stepping up and supporting our sport like this.

Forecast is for "rain" next week. What is "rain"? Being from Texas, I am not familiar with that atmospheric phenomenon.

I'm thinking a rain suit is in order here, and something to cover the shooting (not shopping) cart.

If everyone brings rain gear and a cart tarp, there will be no rain. Someone slipped up last weekend and we go soaked.

Good luck to all up there and enjoy the Friday Fish Fry special at "The Bridge" tonight.