Yeah, I hear that, for some reason I like the flavor of it. Probably because I don't have it here ever.
They say some idiots drink Lone Star beer too I hear...
BTW I gave ya a choice! Grins.
Best of luck on Friday, hope the weather does something nice for a change.
I just chased my last fire of the day I hope... 4 hours this afternoon and we had 4 lightnening strike fires started.... ugh. Friday is dry dry dry and windy forecast... triple ugh.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
I remember the old days when I was in the AF. You couldn't buy Coors in michigan. We'd fly to somewhere west, load a pallet of coors in our tanker for the return trip home. You could sell a six pack for $5, and help the guy by drinking half of it...
After talking to Denys, sounds like you guys have one heck of a range down there!
Deny's, I was on the FTR development team #1 coached by Dale Carpenter. It was a good time shooting for Dale. I bet I would have done terrible in this wind if I didn't have him calling the shots. Good luck in the 1000 yard individuals tomorrow.
anytime you get an inspector, errr I mean a ref involved, it can get interesting.... Gotta have em though. But should be like a robot, all trained the same etc....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Well, it's all done. Awards were handed out last night; congrats to all the winners. I had an absolute blast and I learned a lot. I will post a recap from my POV in the next few days. I start the long trek back to Texas this morning. Next weekend is TSRA Long Range and I have my ammo loaded, thankfully.
Met a ton of great people! Denys, Pat,and Ian. All gentlemen. Got reaquainted with some old friends, made some new ones. I'm gonna switch my weather forecast app and use Monte's Tell you what, the Texans sure do know how to tell a jokes and Laura Perry is a sweetheart!
Great to meet you too Al. The whole experience was a lot of fun! It was something else to be surrounded by all of the talented shooters that I've been reading about online for the last couple years, and even better when you discover them to be truly gracious sportsmen/women.
It was something else to be surrounded by all of the talented shooters that I've been reading about online for the last couple years, and even better when you discover them to be truely gracious sportsmen/women.
Yes it was!
Match #1, relay #2, first day of the 1000 yard matches had Laura Perry on the target next to the one I fired on during relay #1, Jeff Rorer was on my target, John Chilton and Darrell Buell were also on the line at the time. I struggled with vertical during match #1, I watched relay #2 shoot and it was all 10's and "X"s. Those folks know how to pound em in!
Great to meet you too Al. The whole experience was a lot of fun! It was something else to be surrounded by all of the talented shooters that I've been reading about online for the last couple years, and even better when you discover them to be truely gracious sportsmen/women.
Unless thats F class jargon, thats a hilarious target from teh pits! Jeff
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
We arrived at 1:00PM on Sunday after a grueling 1260 mile drive. Well, it wasn�t really grueling but it was long. We dropped our stuff off at the hotels and went to the range just in time to see the competitors for the Wisconsin State match drive away because the match had been called on account of rain.
On Monday morning we arrived early for the squadded practice. I picked up my packet and visited with some folks while waiting for the rain to end. At about 9:30 we were told to come back at noon and see if there would be a practice. I went back to my hotel and fell asleep. I woke up around noon, and saw that it was raining and fell back asleep. As it turns out, there was a short practice session and since I had my 600 and 1000 yards zeroes, I was just as happy letting somebody else have a go at it while I remained dry.
On Tuesday morning we assembled at the 600 yards line, introduced ourselves to the other relays on the target and then relay 5/6 went down to the pits. It was breezy but it was a nice day. My first string was a 144-7X and then I shot a 145-4X and in the afternoon I shot a 146-7X. This gave me a total of 435-18X for the day and 38 place overall. I felt good with my shooting, but I thought I had dropped more points than were due to conditions. I did feel good that in the third string I shot five Xs in a row; so my rifle and load were fine.
On Wednesday we gathered at the 1000 yard line and since it was my turn to be on relay 5/6, I went down to the pits first. The wind was pretty stiff but when it was my turn to shoot, I managed a 143-0 in my first string. The second string was pretty bad and I dropped 15 points and simply could not find the 10 or X rings. I had a series of 9s, but towards the end managed to get to 10s only to lose both to an 8 as the last shot for a 135-0. I had just dropped as many points in one match as I had dropped entire previous day. I did fairly well in the last string because I was able to detect the mirage dancing on the number boards and I kept track of the deteriorating conditions with that, I even got rained on as I was shooting. Not a big rain, but rain nonetheless (I�m using that as an excuse.) So I made up a little by shooting a 143-2 as my last string of the day, for a total of 421-2X. This kept me in 38th place overall.
On Thursday, I participated in the team match and I was in Mike Miller�s team. The rain was ferocious at first and the start kept getting delayed. At one point one of our team members called it quits and went away. We were a little shocked but since we had an assistant wind coach in training, Mike scrambled and got his equipment together and became our fourth. Of course, as soon as the other guy had quit, the skies cleared and the game was on. I had fired my blow out a few hours before and I knew that I was shooting low, or I thought I was, but since we had not shot on a target, I could not be sure. As it was my rifle, ammo and fingers were near freezing when we started to record and I only had two sighters. It took me a few more shots than that to get to proper temperature and elevation, but once that was done, Andy (our wind coach) did a great job talking me in to 10s and Xs. I shot a 190-4X. The 1000 yard portion was cancelled mid-way through when the wind picked up violently and the rain returned with a vengeance. We had had to stop several times during the day and that last squall just caused the match to be cancelled.
By Friday morning, I was tired of being cold, rained on, tossed around by the wind and I was grumpy. This time I was on relay 1/2 which means that I shot my first string early in the morning and then the last two, hours later in the afternoon. The wind was very stiff, but somehow I managed to ride the conditions and my first shot of the day was a 10. I almost decided to go for record right away, but decided instead to warm up the barrel. Good decision as my next shot was a low 8. After 4 sighters, I finally hit my X, and decided to go for record. My first two shots were 9s, and then I entered the zone and for the next 9 shots, I got five Xs and four 10s. At that point my scorer called out something, which I did not understand and I looked over and asked him to repeat. He said I was on shot 12. �The one I just fired?� �No, the one you just loaded.� I fell out of the zone. By the time I turned back to shoot, I had lost track of the flags and my hold and proceeded to shot two 8s and one 7 as shot 12, 13 and 14. I finally found the rhythm again and shot 15 was an X. I dropped 7 points in the last 4 shots. I was not happy with myself. That performance however was good enough for third place in Expert class (the largest one) for that relay. Then we went to the pits for the next several hours.
When we came out the conditions had changed and I had a sense of foreboding. When my turn finally came to shoot again, I simply could not follow the conditions and shot a horrible 134-0. Shortly after that, I shot my last relay of the match. It started off with two 10s then I shot a 9, then a 7 way left then and 8 way right and at that point, I more or less gave up, I just wanted to finish and be taken out of my misery. I started playing �chase the spotter,� shooting quickly, and managed to get two Xs but also collected a slew of 7s and 8s. I finished with a 131-2X for a day total of 406-X and a grand total of 1262-28X. This puts me in 40th position out of 61 shooters. I realize that I should have continued to fight for every point in the last match, but I don�t think I could have done much better. I was defeated by the conditions. However, listening to other shooters� tales of woe, my story was by no means unique. But that is little comfort.
I had a great time. I met a lot of people, some I had heard about but had not met previously, others I had chatted with on forums but not yet met in person and I also ran into a lot of old acquaintances. I am so glad I participated and even with my cheap semi-homemade FTR rifle, I still managed to shoot pretty good overall. I had a few flashes of shooting brilliance but more of the car crashes/train wrecks. I think my ammo is just about as good as it gets, and I actually talked with Warren Dean about my experiences with the 180gr JLK LBT. He was very glad to hear I was shooting it, but that�s a different story.
Monte Milanuk is a great guy and excellent shooter and I know some of you may not believe this, but he is opinionated. (I know, it was a shock to me too.) I like that! Pat (Toodogs) also has opinions and it was great talking with him. Al (AJ300MAG) is just a hoot to meet in person and he�s a great shooter. He can provide his results but he beat me. One of our other member here, my driving buddy to Lodi and back, Matt Davis, shot superbly and won grand aggregate for Master class in F-open. Another one of the Bayou Rifles contingent, but not a member here, Mark Walker, established a new National record of 150-12X at 1000 yards in F-Open.
Now, I am looking forward to TSRA LR next week at Bayou Rifles and Raton next year for Nationals.
I did notice that I am classified as HM for the aggregate results and that disturbs me. I am HM at mid-range, and we already discussed how that happened, but at LR I am classified as Expert. So, I guess they take the highest classification you have and that is what they use for the whole match? That doesn�t quite seem proper.
Howdy All. Amazing how a week away from the castle needs so much time to catch up on "things that must be done". Now that I'm kinda caught up thought I'd drop in to say hello.
First I've mailed my mid-range HM card back to NRA. Sure as heck did not earn it after the 600 stage at Lodi. Overall tournament results were #46 of 61 F-TR shooters. Sure were some great shooters there!
It was an honor to meet and talk with AJ300MAG, FTR, Ryan, Monte, and Trevor from the 24HCF. Excellent folks one and all.
Ryan, I went to your FClass site. The host has it in a parking spot, and has some, ah, uh, interesting links it suggests I visit. Sure hope those links weren't suggested via the hosts spies looking at cookies from my internet travels, LOL!
Below are results I swiped from a cloud somewhere:
Final Results for F-T/R: (F-Open to follow)
1 JEFF RORER TR HM 449-21 441-15 425-5 1315-41 2 JOHN H WEIL S TR MA 442-15 434-14 432-13 1308-42 3 LAURA PERRY W TR MA 446-20 437-13 424-6 1307-39 4 CHRIS OZOLINS P TR HM 445-21 436-9 424-4 1305-34 5 JOHN CHILTON TR MA 448-26 442-8 413-5 1303-39 6 DARRELL BUELL TR EX 445-23 438-19 417-7 1300-49 7 IAN KLEMM TR EX 444-16 443-20 413-7 1300-43 8 DANIEL POHLABEL S TR EX 445-23 436-13 415-7 1296-43 9 MARK HOUSEMAN TR MA 443-21 436-9 417-5 1296-35 10 MICHELLE GALLAGHER W TR MA 440-18 441-14 411-3 1292-35 11 JOHN HAYHURST TR MA 444-21 437-13 408-5 1289-39 12 PHILIP KELLEY TR EX 441-19 431-6 416-4 1288-29 13 DEREK RODGERS TR HM 443-16 434-11 410-4 1287-31 14 JAMES CROFTS TR HM 440-17 433-6 414-6 1287-29 15 SIERRA SCOTT W TR MA 442-13 434-10 411-1 1287-24 16 STAN PATE TR MA 446-19 428-11 412-10 1286-40 17 MICHAEL SMITH TR MA 437-18 441-10 408-1 1286-29 18 BRAD SAUVE TR MA 444-22 425-10 413-5 1282-37 19 DALE CARPENTER TR MA 439-16 424-7 419-11 1282-34 20 JAMES DIETLEIN S TR MA 442-20 429-10 411-3 1282-33 21 RAYMOND GROSS TR UN 436-13 422-8 422-6 1280-27 22 ALAN BARNHART TR HM 438-18 430-12 410-5 1278-35 23 LUIS ELJAIEK JR TR EX 436-9 426-12 415-4 1277-25 24 WARREN DEAN TR MA 434-13 425-5 417-7 1276-25 25 DONALD MIKE MILLER TR MA 436-9 427-10 413-6 1276-25 26 BOB LORENZ S TR MA 439-15 418-4 419-4 1276-23 27 TOM JONES TR MA 428-8 428-17 419-6 1275-31 28 PAUL PHILLIPS P TR MA 440-17 430-8 405-1 1275-26 29 JOSEPH CONLEY TR MA 440-19 432-10 402-3 1274-32 30 JOHN BARKLEY S TR MA 431-8 429-13 411-9 1271-30 31 JOHN M HARDY TR MA 441-13 422-5 408-3 1271-21 32 K BRYAN BEEM J TR EX 430-10 426-9 414-4 1270-23 33 AARON DUVALL TR EX 440-17 416-6 413-9 1269-32 34 MONTE MILANUK TR HM 437-16 425-8 407-3 1269-27 35 BILL WATTS TR UN 437-14 423-5 409-6 1269-25 36 ALEXANDER WALEWSKI TR MA 442-12 418-6 409-3 1269-21 37 GEORGE TREVOR MCMACKEN TR UN 434-11 422-3 412-2 1268-16 38 RABOSLAW CZUPRYNA TR UN 434-15 414-7 419-11 1267-33 39 TERRY PERKINS TR MA 440-18 416-7 408-7 1264-32 40 DENYS BEAUCHEMIN TR HM 435-18 421-2 406-8 1262-28 41 DAVID ZAFFKE TR HM 433-9 421-10 408-0 1262-19 42 EMIL KOVAN TR HM 436-18 418-7 407-6 1261-31 43 PAUL SCOTT TR MA 433-13 415-6 411-3 1259-22 44 RYAN COKERHAM TR MA 436-13 416-4 406-7 1258-24 45 JEFFREY CALHOON P TR EX 433-10 422-8 401-3 1256-21 46 PATRICK J CAMPBELL TR HM 432-9 413-7 399-3 1244-19 47 KENNETH ORRIS S TR EX 430-8 414-8 395-0 1239-16 48 STEPHEN WINSELMAN TR UN 427-8 419-5 391-3 1237-16 49 DANIEL P LENTZ TR EX 436-13 400-4 400-3 1236-20 50 FRANCIS X CONLON TR EX 429-12 407-2 400-1 1236-15 51 ROBERT R DEPP S TR EX 426-8 406-5 397-1 1229-14 52 STEPHEN SIRACUSA S TR MA 433-7 405-8 389-3 1227-18 53 RICKY BETHKE TR MK 434-13 413-4 378-3 1225-20 54 STEVE ROSSI S TR UN 410-7 415-8 395-9 1220-24 55 DENNIS GREEN S TR EX 431-11 391-5 394-3 1216-19 56 ERVIN MORSE SR TR EX 419-10 422-7 373-3 1214-20 57 GARY ATKINSON TR SS 419-4 401-4 385-3 1205-11 58 KURT KRUG S TR SS 424-7 364-2 353-2 1141-11 59 LANE VAN DE STEEG TR UN 394-6 372-5 373-3 1139-14 60 EMIL PRASLICK III SER TR EX 436-19 431-12 DNF 867-31 61 BRETT STARK TR UN 414-9 388-6 DNF 802-15
And now the F-Open results: Congratulations to Jim Murphy, F-Open National Champion
1 JIM MURPHY S O HM 444-25 447-21 440-9 1331-55 2 DON J NAGEL O HM 448-19 447-18 435-9 1330-46 3 DAVID GOSNELL 0 HM 448-25 445-24 436-12 1329-61 4 JOHN BREWER G O HM 449-27 447-23 432-12 1328-62 5 ROBERT BOCK S O HM 450-32 445-22 432-10 1327-64 6 RICK JENSEN O HM 447-27 446-22 433-13 1326-62 7 DAVID MANN O HM 447-21 448-21 431-15 1326-57 8 CHARLES BALLARD O HM 449-26 439-18 437-15 1325-59 9 DANNY J BIGGS G O HM 448-29 444-20 432-13 1324-62 10 BOB PASTOR O EX 450-23 438-15 436-9 1324-47 11 MARK WALKER O HM 447-23 440-19 436-11 1323-53 12 HERBERT EDWARDS O HM 449-19 441-19 432-14 1322-52 13 KEN DICKERMAN O HM 449-26 440-12 433-11 1322-49 14 LARRY BARTHOLOME G O HM 446-29 440-19 435-10 1321-58 15 GREG WOZNIAK O HM 449-18 438-14 434-11 1321-43 16 ROBERT SEBOLD O HM 448-30 437-14 435-11 1320-55 17 RON G HERMS G O HM 448-24 443-16 429-6 1320-46 18 RYAN PIERCE O HM 446-18 439-11 434-12 1319-41 19 FREDDY HALTOM O HM 447-20 440-19 431-10 1318-49 20 BUDDY REICH O HM 448-19 444-14 426-9 1318-42 21 MATHEW DAVIS O MA 443-16 442-19 432-11 1317-46 22 DEAN MORRIS O HM 448-27 444-20 424-13 1316-60 23 BEN WINGET O HM 446-27 439-13 431-10 1316-50 24 BRYAN CHATWELL O MA 447-20 439-17 430-10 1316-47 25 WILLIAM WITTMAN S O HM 445-21 443-17 427-8 1315-46 26 GORDON OGG O UN 442-16 437-18 435-9 1314-43 27 JOHN DUNBAR O MA 444-18 437-10 432-9 1313-37 28 JOHN MYERS O HM 446-24 445-22 421-5 1312-51 29 CHARLES F CLARK O UN 437-14 442-15 433-11 1312-40 30 STEVEN ZOCK O MA 446-21 436-10 430-9 1312-40 31 DAVID BAILEY O HM 444-23 442-17 424-11 1310-51 32 JOHN CAMPBELL S O EX 445-21 433-10 432-13 1310-44 33 DENNIS WELKER S O EX 443-18 435-13 432-10 1310-41 34 GEORGE TONY ROBERTSON S O MA 444-28 443-17 422-9 1309-54 35 ANDY AMBER S O MA 445-24 437-18 427-7 1309-49 36 ADAM SHIDLA O HM 448-29 433-10 428-6 1309-45 37 BRET A SOLOMON O HM 443-22 441-17 425-6 1309-45 38 JIM SEE O EX 444-20 429-11 436-14 1309-45 39 BRUCE CONDIE O EX 444-21 434-13 431-11 1309-45 40 JEFF BLAKE O HM 446-23 435-16 425-7 1306-46 41 SHIRAZ BALOLIA O HM 443-17 438-16 425-5 1306-38 42 GARY CHILDS S P HM 448-22 433-11 423-6 1304-39 43 MIKE JAKUBCZAK O HM 442-19 436-14 425-8 1303-41 44 JEFF COCHRAN O HM 442-21 429-11 429-8 1300-40 45 JOHN GAINES G O MA 442-18 435-11 423-7 1300-36 46 BUD WILLIAMS S O SS 434-11 438-12 427-10 1299-33 47 JIM SOKOLOWSKI O MA 444-22 427-11 427-5 1298-38 48 DAVID CONRATH TR MA 437-16 433-11 428-9 1298-36 49 JIM FOWLER O HM 447-21 433-9 417-5 1297-35 50 GREG WAHLSTROM S O UN 438-23 429-14 429-9 1296-46 51 MARK IWANOCHKO O UN 436-16 430-10 428-8 1294-34 52 EARL LIEBETRAU G O HM 446-18 426-12 421-5 1293-35 53 WILLIAM LARSON S O EX 437-13 434-10 422-8 1293-31 54 SHAWN AHRENS O HM 443-14 429-9 421-6 1293-29 55 DAVID DECAREAUX O HM 442-23 435-9 415-10 1292-42 56 KEVIN BEEM O HM 447-27 435-13 407-3 1289-43 57 CHAD RANKIN O UN 443-20 430-9 415-8 1288-37 58 WALTER LANGE S O HM 438-10 426-6 421-7 1285-23 59 ROD VIGSTOL O UN 437-13 425-5 422-6 1284-24 60 BRADLEY RICHARDS O EX 437-16 429-12 417-3 1283-31 61 SCOTT FLECK O EX 441-14 426-10 416-7 1283-31 62 GARY EVANS O MA 436-11 427-6 420-7 1283-24 63 WADE RANKIN O UN 445-16 422-13 415-7 1282-36 64 MIKE WARNER O UN 434-12 432-9 416-6 1282-27 65 WAYNE STEARNS S O HM 421-16 438-17 421-11 1280-44 66 BILL GRAVATT MA 435-9 427-11 409-3 1271-23 67 MICHAEL HINRICHS O EX 426-3 433-8 412-6 1271-17 68 RUSSELL BROWN G O MA 436-10 418-8 416-6 1270-24 69 KEITH RINGELSTETTER O SS 439-15 415-8 413-4 1267-27 70 TODD HOUSE O SS 420-6 423-5 424-8 1267-19 71 EMANUELE CHIP CHIAPPINELLI S O MA 429-8 426-8 408-6 1263-22 72 KENNETH H KLEMM S O SS 432-13 421-7 408-6 1261-26 73 STANLEY RODGERS S SS 439-17 419-7 395-8 1253-32 74 RITA NASH W O SS 428-9 409-8 412-5 1249-22 75 RICHARD KING S O MA 435-14 411-10 401-3 1247-27 76 DENNIS STEINKE S O EX 439-16 407-7 399-2 1245-25 77 HERB MCCLANNAN S O EX 441-21 412-7 391-5 1244-33 78 KENNETH LIEBETRAU S O EX 435-11 415-4 394-6 1244-21 79 ALAN CANAVAN G O UN 427-13 412-3 405-4 1244-20 80 PAUL GRAVES O MK 425-11 409-4 409-2 1243-17 81 NORMAN LARSON G O EX 441-12 385-8 415-6 1241-26 82 KEVIN KING O HM 432-10 407-3 397-3 1236-16 83 GARY PANZER O MA 428-11 399-3 406-4 1233-18 84 GARY LAVALLEY O MA 423-7 409-1 398-2 1230-10 85 AMBER GARTMANN W O SS 395-0 379-4 381-2 1155-6 86 BRENDA LAVALLEY W O EX 401-3 384-1 353-0 1138-4 87 BRYAN OTEY O HM 438-15 428-9 DNF 866-24 88 JOHN PERKINS O UN 431-11 404-2 DNF 835-13 89 DANIEL MULLER O UN DNF 426-5 DNF 426-5 90 CORIE MCKIBBEN W O UN DNF DNF 394-4 394-4
TooDogs, I'll have to see what the links are all about. I didn't notice that.
It was great to meet you and the other guys from the forum. I was amazed how down to earth all of the big name shooters were. I made some good friends and ended up coming home with a silver medal for the team event. I'm going to try to make it back to Lodi in June for the Palma Championship. The Liebetrau family and all of the friendly locals make it a great place to shoot.
Unless thats F class jargon, thats a hilarious target from teh pits!
Thats from one of the last relays of the last day... someone from the line called down fussing that someone had a scoring disc on their target during prep. The pit officer joked about putting a bunch on it and running it up. By that point I was feeling ornery (kind of a bad week for me) so I took the ball and ran with it. We grabbed all the scoring discs nearby and stuck em on there and ran it back up. Not a peep from the line...
I was not impressed with the whole team match thing... probably best if I just leave it at that.
It was good meeting folks and putting faces to names finally... even if Al did get me in trouble with Bob
See attached for a couple more pics. One is a shot down the 1000yd line (think I'm the third one in from the end with the black shooting box), the other is a picture of a bunch of the folks shooting Savage rifles of one form or another. Mostly F/TR, but a few F/Open guys too.
I was a little disappointed the 1000 yard team match got cancelled on account of a passing rain cloud. Ok, I was greatly disapointed. But what can you do?
It was my first time shooting in a team match with a wind coach and I found it interesting. Andy guided me to some good hits after I cleared my elevation issues, but there were a couple bad calls. Mike had explained to us to not contradict the coach and to just do as he indicated. And that just plain makes a lot of sense. As long as I could say that I shot where he told me to, he was the one driving and doing the corrections. I was just a trigger pawn in the game of shooting.
And to be honest, the conditions were so difficult for this old man, I was happy to just concentrate on aiming and trigger pulling.
Tell you what, the Texans sure do know how to tell a jokes and Laura Perry is a sweetheart!![[Linked Image]](http://i55.tinypic.com/345fqjn.jpg)
