|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,218 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,218 Likes: 1 |
Not just Guide lic increases but all Occupational Licenses across the board.
My professional license fee has not gone up. I have to renew it next month - thx for the reminder. Looks like they are finally going to build those projects in Hyder.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840 |
Maybe it's not accross the board .... but I see several other occupational licenses are going up also.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14 |
So all the worrying about the poor assistant guide... eh, no big deal. Not even $200 difference.
I never cared much for the non-resident guide rule anyhow, so that doesn't bother me. I mean, why should a non-resident hunter be required to hire a guide, only to find himself next to a non-resident guide?
Never could quite understand that rule either. It's all about the $$$$. Actually I believe it's about the United States Constitution .... Not quite. Where in the Constitution does it spell out hunting guide requirements?
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840 |
Actually I think it has to do with discrimination .. But I've been wrong before ...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 320
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 320 |
I think they are trying to kill 2 birds here. Confiscate more money for the State initially, AND also trying to "purge" the inactive Guides from the system. But, at the same time... It will also make my freshly "re-newed" License more valuable than before! (less of us) With the "Raise" that's sure to come, I might make $10 an hour next season instead of $8! Woohooo!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 921 Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 921 Likes: 2 |
Kodiman,the problem is the next season is spring with those really long days.You won't even make the $8
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 320
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 320 |
ha ha. Yep Trapperj you are right!
I'm also one of those guys you describe. 30+ years hunting in Alaska, and Assist on only a couple hunts a year. There are lots of us that do this. I may not re-new next time around. Just not worth it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816 |
I just hope everyone is writing to the state as much as they are here.
Member Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,645
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,645 |
Nah, not so much.
If $170 is a deal killer, they are doing you a favor.
Brian
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206 Likes: 5 |
With a Grizz hunt going for 20,000+ and a Moose about the same, not to mention the price on Goat and Sheep you'll forgive me if I don't shed a tear for a $450 increase.
My business licenses cost me more than that per year.... Your probly one of those guys that think outfitters are getting rich? Do you have any idea what a gallon of gas costs in the bush? Ah, Yes, many of us here do know the cost of gas in the bush - and of other things also. We actually live here. Them critters ain't YOUR critters! They are OURS (as in belonging to ALL the people of Alaska). Consider it a royalty on a resource - less than oil, only slightly more than mineral (don't get me started on Pebble!). I pay a royalty with my permit app fees (I'm now officially a Geezer with a permanent hunting license) for my personal use/eating animals. You are mining a public resource. I'm one of those guys that think Outfitters shouldn't consider 2 to 4 month's worth of work an annual salary.(and yeah, outfitting and guiding is bust-azz work) That said, that cost increase will be passed along to the clients, so where's the beef? Guided clients- especially non-residents, probably provide the state with as much or more revenue than all the non-guided/no outfitter hunters. I doubt either good outfitters or guides will have trouble filling out their dance-cards due to a slight % increase in hunt cost.
Last edited by las; 10/08/11.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816 |
I'm sure many guides are not the owners of their operation. Most guides make a low wage for what they do, and do it because they love doing it. I bet $450 is almost 2 days wages for the seasonal guides who only have a limited number of days in the field a year. Do assistant guides need a guide license as well? I'm sure they don't make a whole lot. I doubt those guides are going to see a wage increase to offset the rising Calvin's comment applies directly to myself and yes assistant guides do need a license. las; I was replying to aces when I made the comment about gas prices, I would never make that reply to someone from Kotzebue and I'm not sure why you responded to it? For the record I'm not an outfitter but I do know that it takes alot more than 2-4 months out of the year for them to run their business.
Member Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816 |
Nah, not so much.
If $170 is a deal killer, they are doing you a favor. That looks like a pretty nice boat! Do you use it to make your living? I wonder if you'd be writing some letters if the registration for it almost doubled?
Member Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 20,683
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 20,683 |
most our occ. lic. fees went up 60%, but some doubled.
actually corresponded with Jun via email over it.
asked for and received the budget numbers.
far different than several years ago when asking for same and the woman from Occ licensing told me "that's not public info"
had to set her mind right, that was fun.
trust me, the folks in Juneau think they're doing you a favor and some even think/pretend what they do, insures the public safety! lmao
the reason our licenses went up is for typical stupid azzed stuff, they exempted independent contractors from having to have a shop license, thus getting rid of a big revenue stream, and they made some accounting errors in the past, that we now have to pay for. Hey you didn't think they were gonna take the $$ from the folks that made the mistakes, did you?
ime&o the dept. of Occ licensing is nothing more than a thinly veiled tax. no more, no less
my pard said he was gonna finally let his guide license lapse this year and that's before he was aware of the increase i believe.
I'm going on close to 8-9 years since I renewed mine.
AK biz lic. = tax
city biz lic. = tax, and lmao it's based on your gross revenue
occ lic = tax
it's plain for me to see, that .gov on the FED, state and local level is pretty much a self serving beast.
those that are funded by such, drink the koolaid and feel they deliver a very important service.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14 |
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,562 Likes: 14 |
I'm sure many guides are not the owners of their operation. Most guides make a low wage for what they do, and do it because they love doing it. I bet $450 is almost 2 days wages for the seasonal guides who only have a limited number of days in the field a year. Do assistant guides need a guide license as well? I'm sure they don't make a whole lot. I doubt those guides are going to see a wage increase to offset the rising Calvin's comment applies directly to myself and yes assistant guides do need a license. las; I was replying to aces when I made the comment about gas prices, I would never make that reply to someone from Kotzebue and I'm not sure why you responded to it? For the record I'm not an outfitter but I do know that it takes alot more than 2-4 months out of the year for them to run their business. You obviously missed the point...and yes I know things cost more in the bush, the fact you're surprised by that is telling.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 134
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 134 |
No need to worry about the prices-in a VERY short # of years-there won't be anyone come up to hunt-then you will be up to your ass in bears andmaybe they will eat the regulators
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,206 Likes: 5 |
You never heard the term "more money than brains"?
Might thin the herd some, but they'll keep coming.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 816 |
Member Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
|
|
|
|
534 members (1OntarioJim, 219 Wasp, 1badf350, 10gaugemag, 160user, 1Longbow, 43 invisible),
2,321
guests, and
1,234
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,334
Posts18,526,750
Members74,031
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|