Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles A Girl, An Elk, A 243 Win/105VLD and 688yds makes elk steaks

The problerm is with those people, not the guy who can and does make the shot.





I'd agree with that, yet there are those who would say a 250 yard shot is "ethical" and a 750 yard shot is "unethical."

Ethical is the distance at which you can place the bullet reliably and make a clean kill. Some can do it at 750, and because others can't, the others label it "unethical" and it's not.

I am not expert enough to make that shot. If I were being mentored/coached by someone who had those skills and they were confident in me, the conditions, the equiptment and were there talking me through the shot maybe. I would prabably say "Hey; look at those Elk!" "How can we get closer?" It does'nt change the fact that there are people who can do this and it is how they choose to hunt. It is fun. At the end of the day we are a bunch of guys who like to wear our hunting clothes, mess with our gadgets, argue scopes/rifles/calibers, roam the woods where others won't go (hopefully) wishing that we could do this everyday, eat on a tailgate or by a fire, spend an hour the night before trying to decide which socks, pants, boots, gloves, coat, hat to wear, and stand leaning at the back of a truck with other hunters yacking because it is fun. Deer camp we pretend for a week that the most important thing in life is pursuing deer. It is fun.

Cripes sakes she made the shot!
By extension with Burns as a spotter / coach she is fully CAPABLE to make the shot..
Neither you nor I know how long that she may have practiced shooting long range..
The jerks that would take that shoot without any long range practice don't need the TV to enable them!
Hell I have a dumb [bleep] neighbor who 32 years ago took a shot at a Ram at what he est. to be 500yds..
I know for a fact he has never shot on paper past 100yds..
He did all that without seeing it on TV!

Like I said, if You are CAPABLE of making that shot, then I don't have a problem with it.

All they say on the video is her first shot at an Elk. Nothing is said about her overall skill.

Understood. I just don't understand why people keep bringing up what idiots who see it on TV may or may not do, what the anti's think of it, etc.

The way I look at it, she's batting 1000.

Knowing what my 6mmRem is capable of(shot a 5.398" 5 shot group @600yds last year)and knowing the distance Id have taken the shot, too. You gotta have the confidence to make a shot like that. A spotter doesnt hurt, either.

I would have thought that you would know about Greybull Precision since they sponsor the Custom Rifles & Wildcats Forum..
I see now that you only joined this site in May of this year (789 posts already?) so you must have missed the welcoming committee rants about his over priced rifles and stupid custom LR scopes...
I am surpised Burns doesn't give it up, as he must know by now that he is not welcome around here...

Congratulations to the young lady is indeed inorder

People wound more animals at close range every year I'm SURE than John has ever seen wounded and not recovered at long range. Seems like "ethical" is all relative on your shooter. Just my 2 cents.

I would like to ask, if recomending an elk rifle to someone, what caliber would you choose? The reason I ask is because it seems like there are 2 extremes and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It seems like some gunwriters want a 338 magnum of some sort and others say a 243/6mm is more than enough. What do ya'll think?

.270, .280, 30-06 etc. Ilove to fish for spotail bass (redfish) and I would recommend a medium heavy rod with 12- 20 lbs test line, but I use a light spinning outfit with 6 lbs line because it makes it more challenging. That makes it fun for me. But I could see it as more challenging to get closer to elk also. But I don't know the reason why they didnt in the video.

I am interested in the �statistics� you speak of concerning the .243 Win/105 VLD. Could you post findings as your �statistics� are contrary to mine? I have only seen a dozen or so elk killed with the 243 Win/105 VLD so my sample is not overly large.

The 243 Win/105 VLD is a proven elk killer in the hands of a decent shooter. While this is getting out to edge of my comfort level with the combo another friend of mine killed her bull elk this year at 760yds with one shot through the shoulder.



I was not aware you spoke for Greg or that he has a problem with my video. As he is a forum member here did you have a discussion with him over PM?



AlabamaEd,

You sure are a peach.

Burns,

Do you tell your shooters to aim for high shoulder? Out of the ones you've seen killed, what was the "worst" angle the animal was at? Do you have any limitations? (like no head on shots, etc)

(I have a box of them and plan on loading them up for deer hunting)

EDITED- Apology sent.

Edited Apology accepted

"DWD" (darn well done) John and company.

Proves what good equipment and good coaching can do.

Dober

From my experience, yeah that would of done the trick as well. Good call...

Dober

Id have more posts than that but I forget my old username. So if I go to Greybull theyll have all the info there? Not that it matters, Im sure she was using Leupold scope, Mcmillan stock, of course that godawful 243Winny, maybe a PacNor barrel mated to a Remington action? All hideous things for sure.