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I still consider a 243 a "stunt" for elk for the most part. I would use one with the right bullet, and at reduced ranges, but it wouldn't be my first choice. And I am a big fan of the 243.

Pretty obvious from the video that a real hunter could have closed the gap...But what do I know? Last elk I killed was at 20yds.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Short video of elk hunt from this weekend. These elk have been hunted all fall and are pretty wary.

This was the third time we setup on the herd and the first chance she had for a shot. I uploaded the video at full HD.




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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Pretty obvious from the video that a real hunter could have closed the gap...But what do I know? Last elk I killed was at 20yds.


Fodder for it's own thread. What is a "real hunter"?


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Pretty obvious from the video that a real hunter could have closed the gap...But what do I know? Last elk I killed was at 20yds.



Did you miss this part?: "These elk have been hunted all fall and are pretty wary. This was the third time we setup on the herd and the first chance she had for a shot."



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Any elk not in a hayfield is "weary." That is foreign to some people. That is what makes hunting them so hard.

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Don't you dummies know a 243 can't kill an elk..oooh I forgot it was a female shooting. a real man needs a bigger gun. grin


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Originally Posted by Calvin
So... do you think I could poke a 200lb + buck in the chest with the 105vld at 500yds and not have a tracking nightmare on my hands? Anybody?
If you can make the shot you shouldn't have to track him right? Me personally, I wouldn't take the shot because I don't practice out to those type ranges, I would try to get closer. I would not want to have to track a wounded critter in that rain soaked jungle where you live.


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Originally Posted by 10at6
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Hope she does..
Love seeing her having her lips ripped.. smirk laugh



Makes for great entertainment and I think she kinda likes it to boot..

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Great video JB, thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted by 10at6
The Dwarf from the North will (shortly) come forth. Trust me.
pun intended


Pretty sure the dwarf got the axe......again!

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Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by 10at6
The Dwarf from the North will (shortly) come forth. Trust me.
pun intended


Pretty sure the dwarf got the axe......again!


One can only hope....


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Further evidence that DRT trumps shooting for blood trail.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Any elk not in a hayfield is "weary." That is foreign to some people. That is what makes hunting them so hard.


I shot mine at 15 yards this year. I was standing on a trail in timber and it walked right by me. Last year's bull was at 30 yards, walked right in on him. Year before, 60 yards, walked right in on her.

I suppose that means I'm a much better hunter than John Burns. At least to some people.

I also suppose it gives me that "right" to scoff at others who don't get as close as I do, question whether they're really hunters and such. Because in my book, getting within 50-60 yards is a whole different ballgame than say, 250 yards. Getting within 250 is child's play. But you never hear people question a 250 yard shot, because most can pull it off.

And so on and so forth.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
I shot mine at 15 yards this year. I was standing on a trail in timber and it walked right by me. Last year's bull was at 30 yards, walked right in on him. Year before, 60 yards, walked right in on her.


Why didn't you just lob some lead at them from 700yds instead?

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Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by 10at6
The Dwarf from the North will (shortly) come forth. Trust me.
pun intended


Pretty sure the dwarf got the axe......again!


That would be too bad, he certainly is entertaining.

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Everyone hates 'Stick because he actually speaks from experience, and drew his own conclusions.

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It could be more than a little because he's loud and relentless in proclaiming the "dumbfuckitude" of anyone who reaches a different conclusion.

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Here is how I see it.

Burns knows his rifles and system inside and out. What he can do with a rifle at distance versus someone like myself is night and day.

The fact that he can coach someone into that shot and make it work is one heck of an accomplishment.

However, you take away John Burns giving you elevation and a wind call and see how most of us would do on that shot, regardless of caliber.

John's expertise allows him to take shots and use head stamps on game across state lines that many of us have no business attempting.

With the exception of Scenar, Dober and maybe a few others, JB is in a league of his own. One you don't play in unless you have years of that sort of shooting experience.

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blah blah blah. I know my rifles inside and out too, and still don't consider my 243 an ethical 700yd elk gun.

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