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So, let's say that I'm on the market for the lightest factory rifle on the market chambered in 7mm-08, and have decided on these two (pretty easy to do since these two said rifles are the lightest out there in factory terms that I can find).

This post is aimed at those posters that have one of these rifles (or did) and will comment on them, both positive and negative.

Let's hear some thoughts and opinions!

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If you get the Kimber make sure that the one your getting has the three position safety. I did see one Montana 84M with the old two postition type. It can be changed at the factory for $75 but thats a hassle.

I wish the Montanas had come out a couple of years ago and then I would have favored them over the wood stocked Classics. I already have plenty of wood stocked rifles.

Look at the two guns yourself and buy the one that you like.

We've two examples of the Montana in 7-08 in our truck cab most days. They've accounted for a few critters already as well as a few paper plates at 700 yds, though we have less than 100rds through the two combined.

Stick and MB have 3 Ti's between them, and we've put some time on them.

There's a thread somewhere not too long ago in which Stick summarized his opinions of the Kimber.

Neither he nor I would likely trade the other. I don't think you can go wrong with either, but the Ti can probably be had for a couple hundred bucks less.

I paid $1050 for my Montana, and it weighs 6.75lbs all set up.

I really like the Montana,but my sole bitch would be throat geometry/mag confines. There are ways around it though.

My Ti bitch is the cock block shroud..................

I own a Ti'08 (Montana was not available at that time) and my brother has the 84M in '08. The Ti is capable of shooting itty bitty groups but so is the Kimber. I like the action of the Kimber better and would probably go that route if buying another one. If it matters, I would think the Kimber will hoLd it's value better in the long run. NO FLAMES PLEASE. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I recently went through the same decision but it was in either 7mmwsm or 7mmsaum , for me living in New Zealand i needed a rifle that was easy to work on if its a non shooter , so i choose the titanium , i also noticed the high amount of people who have had to send montanas in for feeding and accuracy problems , they all seemed to be happy with the service from kimber but for me thosands of miles away, i took the safe option , but both are very nice rifles .

That's just it, I have looked at them both quite bit and handled each one while at the local gun shops. I like them both, but alas, I can only get one and I need to decide soon. Honestly, I doubt I can go wrong with the one that I purchase, but I still want to seek out some opinions on both rifles.

Bearstalker, when all is said and done I think the quality of the Kimber is quite a bit higher (I've not owned the 84 but had an 8400 MT). That's no knock on the 700, but it is what it is... a "gussied up" 700. The Kimber's metal work is very precise and the trigger is fantastic. I dislike flutes and "creative milling" so the 700 doesn't appeal to me on that score either. Also, being prejudiced toward's CRF I prefer the Kimber action as well as the three position safety that locks the bolt in the "on." The Ti stock is not in the same league as the Kimber. The Ti's stock is chopped glass throughout, whereas the Kimber is laid glass sheets which, done properly, is a lot stronger. I know first hand the Kimber stock is done right!

For me it's not a contest, good rifle though the Ti may be. I plan to have a Kimber Big Sky in 308 or 708 soon... or at least when I can make up my mind.

Try a Sako Finnlight. Much better than either IMHO. My 7-08 will shoot 1/2" groups at 200yds if I hold still enough, and has shot 3/8" with factory 140 BST's. You won't be sorry---2MG

The "cock-block shroud" is about $75 to a mucho better mousetrap...........but you knew that.

You are about $125 away from a better trigger, with at least a $25 core charge........but you knew that.

Then send it to BCBrian's buddy for a $300 dab of epoxy, and you will be in the berries ! ..........but you knew that !
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Midway is running an anti-cock-block tune up special,for 38 bones.

I went with a red anodized striker,on mine and think highly of the conversion unit.

A sub 1lb trigger would tickle me....................

stick, you saying them midway shroud kits is worth the money?
i was wondering about 'em ...
the midway matte steel adl triggerguard was as advertised and well worth the 29 i paid.

Where did you get that information on the stock compositions for each rifle Brad ? I understand both are predominately graphite, not glass.
What did you understand ? Are the skins on the Ti chopped glass, or are you refering to the webbing area ?
I'm curious as to the details. Would appreciate some details. E

E, I've had a couple of Ti's... dig into them, there's no shell from solid sheets of glass... just chopped glass/graphite. While it's ok for most purposes and is nice and light it's not the same strength-wise as glass sheets forming the skin like McMillan, Borden, Bansner, Brown, etc. I have a friend at Kimber and he's explained the stock making procedure they have. It's time consuming and epensive done "right" and is the reason a good stock from a Co. like McMillan cost's more than the Bell and Carlson mfg'd Ti.

E, BTW... you thinking of a lighter companion to your M70 308? That Mc-stocked Fwt of yours is still one of my all time favorites of any I've seen on these forums... great rig!

BA

I have a long action Ti. I really like it, but I have to say the Kimber is probably a better stock from the factory. Barrels are about equal. Actions are more a preference. Ti is less money, but Kimber better out of the box. Yet, I bought mine w/ an eye toward the future.

Kimber is about as customized as it can be out of the box. Replacement stocks aren't common, calibers are limitted to WSM or short action standards. Remingtons can be had in any caliber short or long, even Mag bolt face, when opened up & a Sako extractor installed. Barrels, stocks, triggers, etc. are easy to find and easy to install. Actions need less tuning/truing to be exceptional.

This is my plans for the future. Brown, "pounder" Kevlar stock, Alum. bolt shroud, I worked the trigger, did the bedding. Next is the caliber & barrel change.

I don't think you'd go wrong w/ either.

Beartrack, Kimber will be adding LA's this fall with the Big Sky version coming out after the new year. The line up will be 270, 7mm RM, 30-06, 300 WM and 338 WM initially. I still wish they'd offered the MT version with bottom metal, but I'm a bit old fashioned that way...

Well, I am going to wait for one of those as my "geezer gun" as I have yet to find a Montana that felt right to me and sending guns back to the USA for warrantee is a huge p.i.t.a.

I just had a new Kimber TLEII sts. .45 pistol put away for me at one of my usual gunshops, looks like a very nice piece. After Katrina, I feel like owning a few more "target" guns, if you get my drift; we are due for a tectonic shift here in Vancouver and looters just don't impress me much.........

E, I would be interested in a picture or two of the rifle Brad is talking about!

Chuck

Kute,
Before you let them swipe your Visa, scrub the bore of the TLE and check for signs of rust. Not sure why, but Kimbers can be shipped soaked in oil, and still have rusty bores. Finding this out AFTER you own the gun just starts things off on the wrong foot.

TK2